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  • Brett Sherman

    December 30, 2015 at 2:46 am

    [John Davidson] “I wonder what the people who came up with those horrible deck menu systems are doing now?”

    Designing menus for Sony cameras no doubt.

  • Tony West

    December 30, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    [John Davidson] “Because it was annoying.”

    Come on John, what about how long it takes to transfer in real time? You don’t miss that?

    Or interrupting in the middle of the interview to change TAPE?

    [John Davidson] “death to tape!”

    +1

    The really sad part is that there is all this footage that is just gong to go to waste because most stations will never spend the money to pay somebody to digitize all their footage.

    It will end up in a trash bin at some point. $

  • Shane Ross

    December 30, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Now all we need is the ability to INSERT EDIT into a Quicktime file. So when there’s a shot change, or if we see a small mistake in one part of the file, we don’t need to reoutput the whole dang thing again. So insert edit video and audio. ALSO…there needs to be an alternate to Quicktime 7 Pro. One that allows you to delete audio tracks, add audio tracks, turn off and re-assign audio tracks. Professional level digital file manipulation of an already exported file. Without that, and the ability to insert edit…going tapeless will never be as elegant as outputting to tape.

    “Oops! I made a mistake on the slate! I put STEREO RIGHT on both tracks 7 and 8. Ah well, time to re-export that WHOLE FILE again, which takes over an hour.”

    “But we’ll miss FedEx!”

    “Sorry…”

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Oliver Peters

    December 30, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Now all we need is the ability to INSERT EDIT into a Quicktime file”

    Cinedeck sort of offers that ability, though with some caveats.

    [Shane Ross] “ALSO…there needs to be an alternate to Quicktime 7 Pro. One that allows you to delete audio tracks, add audio tracks, turn off and re-assign audio tracks”

    Look at the full version of Telestream Switch. It offers some of those functions and is trying to be that replacement tool.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Shane Ross

    December 30, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Look at the full version of Telestream Switch. It offers some of those functions and is trying to be that replacement tool.”

    At $300, that’s a tough pill to swallow. When QT7 was free when you bought Final Cut Studio…and only $50 if you didn’t. QT7 still works, so until it doesn’t, I don’t see that as a big seller in the Mac market. But I know that it’s a tough thing…QT7 had a WIDE user base, and Apple makes all the money on iPhones and iPads. And Telestream doesn’t have a wide client base, and this is the main source of income…thus why they charge what they have to charge. And until it catches on and the masses buy it, I can’t see the price going down.

    [Oliver Peters] “Cinedeck sort of offers that ability, though with some caveats.”

    Such as needing to buy a deck, right? Wasn’t part of this debate the joy of no longer needing that expensive piece of hardware? How about a software that allows a software insert edit? That’s what we need.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Oliver Peters

    December 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    [Shane Ross] “At $300, that’s a tough pill to swallow. When QT7 was free when you bought Final Cut Studio…and only $50 if you didn’t. QT7 still works, so until it doesn’t, I don’t see that as a big seller in the Mac market.”

    C’mon! It’s hardly fair to compare real world development costs with what Apple charges for software, when their’s requires that big dongle. 😉

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Mark Suszko

    December 30, 2015 at 6:22 pm

  • Shane Ross

    December 30, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “C’mon! It’s hardly fair to compare real world development costs with what Apple charges for software, when their’s requires that big dongle. ;-)”

    I KNOW! I KNOW! Just being Devil’s Advocate. I know the real cost of pro stuff, and I pay for it, even though personally I’m a small operation. So I know I’ll eventually shell out for it. But there are all those thousands of mid-level or lower level (not meaning to disparage at all!) people for whom that is a chunk of change.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Herb Sevush

    December 30, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    In my position as forum “alta cocker” I will simply say that finishing to tape is paradise compared with finishing to 16mm film. If you’ve ever experienced the joy of seeing your first check print from an inter-negative come back laced with scratches only to find that your original has been mishandled by some drunken neg cutter and the film that you thought was totally finished 2 weeks ago has to be recut – then the minor inconveniences of outputting to tape seem a positive joy.

    There is also the fact that when my assistant lets me know there is a drop out on a frame at 1:11:17:23, I can punch in the fix in a lot less time than it takes to export and qc a half hour show.

    I’m not saying I don’t prefer tape delivery, I’m just saying …

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Andy Field

    December 30, 2015 at 11:42 pm

    Have freelance network photograher friends with once “state of the art” 60 thousand dollar betacams they can no longer give away as ship’s anchors. The beat goes on…..

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

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