The exponential greatness of multicam in FCPX

[James Ewart]

Sorry. I was replying to Scott’s suggestions of the Multicam ripple tutorial and adding a bit extra about the Snapshot workflow from earlier. Sorry if I’ve derailed things.

[Bret Williams]

I asked Scott who he was replying to because he replied to Oliver’s comment with something about tutorials. Didn’t make any sense.

[Scott Witthaus]

Sorry Brett –

This was a link to Ripple’s Multicam Tutorial, which seems to be a good investment to anyone truly interested. I have used Ripple alot and they are really good lessons. Might be of some help to the OP. Sorry James, I should have quoted from the original post.

scott

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Bret Williams]

Ah. I think some don’t look at the forum in thread view and realize replies are to a specific post and not just a linear discussion so it’s not generally needed to quote.

Ripple is awesome. But this is a pretty specific thing that usually wouldn’t even come up. But it can bite you if you’re not careful. James trick with the snapshots is the best idea I’ve heard to break the relationship.

[Dave Gage]

[Bret Williams] ”
Ah. I think some don’t look at the forum in thread view and realize replies are to a specific post and not just a linear discussion so it’s not generally needed to quote.”

Yep. Thanks to the recent addition by Tim, I now always view in the new option of “View Posts by Topic (Date Updated)”. The lack of quoting in these threads when viewing this way has always been a bit of a hassle. To figure out which post a new post is referring to I sometimes have to scroll up to guess which post was the one they were responding to. Most of the time I figure it out, but not always.
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Hey Tim if you’re following this thread…

Any chance of adding the option after “Reply” of “Reply with Quote”? I think most new posters and some veterans aren’t aware of the “Q” trick you can use after you hit the Reply link. This would help solve this particular problem when viewing by topic.

Thanks,
Dave

[Tim Wilson]

[Dave Gage] “Hey Tim if you’re following this thread…”

Dude, I follow every thread. LOL I’m just not always able to reply…. however….

[Dave Gage] “Any chance of adding the option after “Reply” of “Reply with Quote”? I think most new posters and some veterans aren’t aware of the “Q” trick you can use after you hit the Reply link. This would help solve this particular problem when viewing by topic.”

Hmmmm, I think I see what you’re saying.Let me poke at this for a while. Can you take one more try at describing it for me?

I really like this new view too, btw. Thanks for your patience as we continue to refine.

In the meantime, folks who don’t know it should definitely check out the “Q” button. Hit Reply to bring up the text entry box, then select the text in the post that you’d like to reply to, and press the “q” in your keyboard (no quotes, just the letter). The selected text will show up in italics, with the name of the poster in bold.

In fact, this feature was developed both for efficiency (no need to quote the whole post if you’re only talking about one sentence), and in combination with the Threaded view, to provide a visual representation of branching conversations within a thread. Hence new posts going under the ones they reply to, rather than just parked at the bottom.

When a long thread went a dozen posts or so, that worked great. Now, threads routinely cross multiple dozens, sometimes over a hundred, and it’s not always realistic to expect to find a new post asking alllll those others if it’s in reply to one of the branches in the middle.

Anyway, if you can help me understand your suggestion a little better, we might be able to figure something out. …

[Andrew Kimery]

[Tim Wilson] “Hmmmm, I think I see what you’re saying.Let me poke at this for a while. Can you take one more try at describing it for me? “

“Reply with quote” would automatically quote the entire post and put it in the reply text box (for lack of a better term). Right now it’s:
1. Hit “reply”.
2. Highlight text in post you are replying to.
3. Hit Q or “quote” button.

A “reply with quote” button would merge these steps into a single button press.

[Dave Gage]

[Andrew Kimery] ”
“Reply with quote” would automatically quote the entire post and put it in the reply text box (for lack of a better term). Right now it’s:
1. Hit “reply”.
2. Highlight text in post you are replying to.
3. Hit Q or “quote” button.

A “reply with quote” button would merge these steps into a single button press.”

Tim, yes, what he said. I have an ancient forum (from 2001) on one of my websites that does exactly as Andrew described. The link for the “Reply with quote” is next to the “Reply” link and it greatly simplifies the “quote” aspect. As he mentioned, it does quote the complete prior post. If you don’t want that, you need to use “Q” or edit the content of the quoted reply.

Check out this post and you can see how the reply and other options are laid out on the bottom right of each post-
https://www.harmonicalessons.com/members/dcforum/DCForumID1/651.html

Dave

[Bret Williams]

I guess I’m confused. Where is this reply button? It’s already simpler than described. Highlight, press q, continue typing. Press post when done.

And fwiw, the Q is fairly useless if you’re not viewing in a computer. There’s no way to just press q on an iPhone.

[James Ewart]

[Herb Sevush] “In this thread I’m asking for someone to show me how X can help me improve my efficiency in cutting multicam. In return I will endeavor to explain how other systems might improve your multicam work. Let’s keep it simple and open to all possibilities.”

Sorry if this is not a technical reply. It’s not going to prove anything quantifiably.

For my own benefit I have been watching some PP tutorials on the Adobe website. My impression of PP is that it is such a complicated looking interface – not quite as muddled as MC and probably a bit more cluttered than FCP7.

What I found hard to adjust to with FCPX was the simplicity of the streamlined interface. I have now realised it is what I like most about it now. Everything is there if you need it but less “in yer face”

I find it easier to concentrate on the edit, the story, the rhythm. Does that make me more efficient? Who can say. It’s just a nicer place to go to work. It’s about feel. Apologies if this sounds superficial and I know it’s not specific to Multicam but I wonder if that’s what it all boils down to – maybe it is not something you can enumerate.