The Cheese Grater is back

[Greg Janza]

Shane, you should give motivational speeches to those entering the business.

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[Shawn Miller]

[Bill Davis] “The thinking is that this alone will yield massive benefits for ALL X users – and, of course – help the FCP X truly shine on the coming New MacPros. “

That doesn’t help me at all… BUT, if my applications of choice (C4D, Arnold, Redshift, Houdini) run significantly faster on the Mac Pro than equal or less expensive Windows or Linux alternatives, then my first Mac may be on the horizon. Then, I won’t have any incentive NOT to try FCPX ????

Shawn

[Dom Silverio]

The problem with comparing it to the z8s is that HP uses Intel Bronze/Silver/Gold/Plat Xeons. And Apple is using the “W” line per their website. I can’t find the exact model Apple is using based on the released specs. But the 2019 W line with 8 core is around $1200.

If you go with specs, then you would need to spend $4K on the Xeon Gold. If you based it on price, then you are looking at Silver.

So it’s really hard to compare. I doubt Apple is using the $4K equivalent of Gold. They are likely using the $1200 version.

[Herb Sevush]

[Oliver Peters] “I get that in your case, you may be charging a package price including complete creative services. “

Yes, that’s part of it, if I’m not producing my own work the I do mostly flat bids for directing and editing and I don’t break out anything – no hourly or daily rates; it’s all in. But when I was still freelancing more widely many of the companies I worked for had their own crappy laptop editing systems for me to work on, but I could convince them to let me work from home if it didn’t cost them any more. It is definitely worth my sanity to pay for my own gear to improve my editing experience, which includes an occasional afternoon nap on my hammock which is one of the more productive uses of my time.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Dom Silverio]

It seems they are using the $800 version of the Intel Cascade Lake Xeon W. So The HP z8 is basically the same price as the 2019 MP.

[Oliver Peters]

[Herb Sevush] “which includes an occasional afternoon nap on my hammock which is one of the more productive uses of my time”

LOL. More power to you! I think that’s all valid, however, you can’t really extrapolate to a larger market in that way. So even though you personally wouldn’t be able to justify the new Mac Pro, that doesn’t mean that others can’t.

I’m in the same boat; however, I wouldn’t say that some of the companies I work for won’t pull the trigger by the end of the year. Budgeting $10-12K for a moderate version of this machine is not off the table for them. Remember, if you got 10 years of life out of the old MP tower, you can reasonably expect the same on this one.

Amortized over 10 years (even with some interim updates), this Mac Pro makes more sense to me that paying $1K for an iPhone ☺

– Oliver

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[Bill Davis]

[Bernard Newnham] “So in the wider world, what’s it for?
“

Productivity.

We’ve already seen that for software like BlackMagic Resolve and FCP X — software that’s largely been rewritten in the past decade – it can run SIGNIFICANTLY faster on modern hardware than the older NLEs legacy code can.

So you can get more work done more easily and faster.

In the new MacPro approach, there’s a specific solution (Afterburner) that moves the transcoding load off of both the CPU and the GPU and onto a special programmable processor that is designed to eliminate playback bottlenecks.

So it’s primarily a play for efficiency and speed with current workflows – and a play to get ahead of the coming wave of high raster content headed our way via the 8K cameras on the horizon. (There was a prototype Canon in the C-500 form factor class demo’d at the WWDC event.

That’s the core of the story, anyway.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Herb Sevush]

[Oliver Peters] “LOL. More power to you! I think that’s all valid, however, you can’t really extrapolate to a larger market in that way. So even though you personally wouldn’t be able to justify the new Mac Pro, that doesn’t mean that others can’t.”

True that.

I’m not denigrating the new MacPro, I’m just pissed that once again Apple does not have me in mind, and while I am singular I am not unique, as contradictory as the might sound. I’ve learned long ago that every time I think I’ve come up with something original there are at least 10 people who have got there before me. It’s a big country out there and even a tiny niche like mine has a lot of occupants.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Andy Field]

Bill — it’s amazing that no one’s opinion other than yours seem to matter —

Keyboards shipping with NLE’s? I’m talking about spending 2 to 5 grand on a piece of equipment that doesn’t get a basic component right – something they were able to do for 20 years prior

add a keyboard? Sure if you do everything sitting a dark room all day – many of us are on the road 24/7 editing in restaurants, hotel rooms, cramped airline seats….and writing scripts ….not going to hand Apple cash for a proven lousy Keyboard just so they can continue shaving millimeters off their machines.

Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

[Greg Janza]

There’s a certain amount of irony that I’m working on a new imac pro at my current gig but using a Das keyboard and Logitech mouse due to the fact that both the mac keyboard and mouse are ergonomic disasters.

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