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The basics of using NR
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As for masking in AE, I’ve never done it, but it should be pretty straightforward. I imagine that you’d duplicate the layer, do the appropriate masking/tracking/animation, do the NR on the masked part, and move on with your life…Not quite sure how to do it in FCP, but I imagine it’s possible.
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I’ve just finished the first detailed pass through a feature on Resolve 8.01 and have used the NR on several shots. Frankly, I am probably going to disable most of the clips NR, and take those shots to AE and use Neat Video.
The feature was shot on 5D and Resolve NR isn’t able to do anything good with the video noise. It just blurs it and the chunks become bigger more indestinct chunks. Even at the higher settings.
Neat video is more of a hand crafted fix for noisy shots, but the results are heads and tails superior to the NR in Resolve I’m sad to say.
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Great info here thank you so much!
Maybe they could try to buy NeatVideo or develop the NR tool further to match the level of reults? Anyone use Revival before – whats that like in comparison? Also add some grain tools like in Color’s FX room 🙂 missing that ability a lot right now.
Having to go to AE to do both things is just another big step i would like to remove…I suppose tools like Nucoda, Baselight, Lustre, etc all have these built in and working well as part of there finishing toolkit?
Not hating on BMD just really hoping for these features to get added asap and working in that I have made the investment in hardware & software for Davinci already 🙂
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Yeah…I’m probably gonna get killed for saying this out loud, but I find it, shall we say, difficult at best, to get a great-looking graded image from 5d/7d/etc footage without using NR on some level. It makes me sad to hear that Resolve’s NR isn’t quite cutting it for a lot of people. I like the results I can get from Neat Video, but it is SUCH a speed-compromised process either running everything through AE before grading it, or especially, grading in AE just to be able to use Neat Video.
I’ve played with NR in Smoke, and have seen it done in Nucoda & Lustre – all pretty impressive stuff sans the AE frustration. I assume Baselight would be equivalent or better. I’d be curious to see a quality comparison between AE/Neat Video and the big boys with 5d or other characteristically noisy footage.
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would using the fcp version on my “from color” sequences suffice if i dont feel like dealing with bringing in a ton of shots to AE
After what you just said about applying it to most 5F footage it makes me think there reaslly are plenty of shots in this 88 minute film that could use a little noise reduction. hopefully my renders cna be used when i pass it off for online with my grades and the NR renders from the fxp sequence all on a drive??
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Well, all I can tell is that OFX integration into grading apps is far from perfect, especially Neat .
I love the fact I can use Resolves noise tool almost in RT, and with a little tweaking you can get very suitable results if you for example limit the noise reduction by a qualifier.
And excuse me, if someone wants a movie denoised, he should bring the funds for me to rent PFClean, Revival or something like MTI.
For a couple of shots I dont wanna bother with AE, really.A slice of color…
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@andrew smith If I were you I’d download the trial FCP version & see if you think it’ll do what you need. The end result will/should be the same as going through Neat Video in AE. Well, maybe…you’re not really working in the same color space in FCP & AE, but I’m not sure what kind of difference that would make. I’m sure someone more expert than myself could weigh in on this.
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FilmMaster works with OFX version of Sapphire with no issues whatsoever. And so is Scratch, to a certain extent…
On the Resolve NR front, it worth mentioning, that traditional NR is done by analyzing and estimation motion of the image and based on that software decides what is noise and what is not. I have no idea, if Resolve uses this technique, nevertheless, real time NR is extremely difficult task, requiring massive amounts of rendering power. So, it seems to me, is trying to balance quality vs. speed. Neat Video or something similar, may provide for cleaner result, but none of them do it in real time. So, pick your poison, speed or quality. Said that, I was able to achieve reasonably good results with Resolve, provided, I only used it in the areas needed. -
You can use a batch process script in AE. If all clips are more or less the same… Camera, Subject, ISO, etc. then you can create an effect profile in AE and run a batch process (applying that profile to all clips) to get a mass clip run into the render que and then take a two week vacation while you wait for all the clips to render. Neat is slow…but very, very good. It literally has save unusable shots for me in the past.
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hi, friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=degEMVPLPdUTry this method.
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