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  • Herb Sevush

    June 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Exact video and audio placement in the timeline (or project) would be sufficient, even if the transitions, EFX, and titles aren’t perfect. Let the editor worry about the relationships and what they mean.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Ted Beke

    June 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Thanks Chris, this is the type of discussion I was hoping to have on this forum. In the eduction I noticed the whole transition dilema between compound and connected clips. Maybe doing a storyline per video track is the answer, or only making a track a storyline if it has transitions within it, versus making it a compound or connected clip. It seems like apple could give us some version of a fix, so we don’t have to rebuild out sequences from scratch if we want to edit with them on the new system. Again, I re-iterate that I would rather have in imperfect system than no system. These problems seem fairly solve-able.

    Ted Beke
    Producer/Editor/Founder
    Precious Ham Productions

  • Craig Seeman

    June 28, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    [J Hussar] “I want tracks back. I need to control the whole she-bang. I don’t want the app assisting me in this.”

    You have connected clips and can group them as Secondary Storylines as needed. You have complete control over this. You can layer all you want and, in fact, you know have more control over the relationship IMHO with Connected Clips or Secondary Storylines. Compound clips also are a major improvement over nesting in many respects.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    i still just want tracks. I don’t care if I’m thick and I don’t get it. I want assignable mappable tracks that i can mute, disable, set as paste destinations. everything. oh look, honestly, I want the viewer too. I’m not on board the future land glow in the dark GUI editing choo choo.
    ecchhhhhhh. oy vey. I’m nearly listless at this point. I think I’m at stage five.

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    June 28, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Maybe it’s time for you to move to another NLE.

    Apple is probably taking advantage of things in AV Foundation to create a more flexible method of story telling. Assuming FCPX survives Apple’s marketing mistakes, I think many editors will see the advantage.

    I remember a time when some editors couldn’t fathom digitizing tapes would be faster and more convenient then simply threading a 1″ real or, even easier, a Betacam tape in a machine and start editing.

    I really think FCPX’s trackless system will make in app compositing and layered editing much easier.

    I’m thinking of all those editors that dump their cutaways on upper tracks and having to be careful about moving things around. Now it’s connected with Connected Clips. Cutways stay related to the master shot now.

    If you need to build a track as a layer with transitions and FX, Secondary Storylines lines do that and they don’t make it an either/or for the Connection depending on how used. I divorce myself from habits and conventions and examine workflows and a well thought out trackless system is going to be a much better, flexible and faster workflow by miles . . . or parsecs.

  • Herb Sevush

    June 28, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    “Maybe it’s time for you to move to another NLE.”

    Maybe it is. Most of my work is multi-cam episodic broadcast. I don’t do a lot of layering and compositing in FCP. I always thought that was what Motion (or AE) was for.

    Where once you had a product that could handle multiple styles of work, and therefore was fairly complex and even cludgy, you now have what might be a very elegant solution to a much more limited number of workflows. And that was what the Pro is FCP was all about, a very customizable program that enabled you to find the best way to create whatever workflow you needed.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

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