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  • Bill Davis

    January 22, 2019 at 3:12 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Also the FCPX workflow is really dependent on using compound clips. “

    I actually don’t find this true at all.

    Most of the editors that I know who use a lot of compound clips do so because they are accustomed to using “nests” in a prior NLE and see this as the FCP X equivalent. But I’m not sure it really is.

    In X, Compound clips are a form of Reference Clip that really just abstracts another layer of metadata and references it to the original content.

    I seldom use them, feeling that it’s smarter to keep my work as close to “flat” as possible and do as little “referencing” as I can.

    Sometimes that’s not possible and I have projects as full of multiclips, sync clips, and compounds as the next guy. But I typically don’t use them any more than I reallly need to.

    My feeling is that simplicity beats complexity whenever you can get away with it!

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Bret Williams

    January 22, 2019 at 6:03 am

    it’s the only software I’ve used for editing pretty much since 2012. I’m corporate and around here in ATL you’re either working at the companies’ facility or you’re working on your own system. I’ve rarely left my basement for a project in 5 or 6 years. My clients are either turn key productions for some of the large companies here (that aren’t really interested in what you edit on) or video producers, where I supply the post production, and many of them are using FCPX as their pre-production tool, bringing me a library or a rough cut. Occasionally something comes my way that’s been started or roughed in Premiere and I just rent Premiere for a month and export it over to FCPX. I still use AE at times, but Motion serves my needs most of the time.

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  • Oliver Peters

    January 22, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    [Bill Davis] “I actually don’t find this true at all.”

    For example, if you want to add a master audio compressor/limiter to your final mix with dialogue, SFX, and music roles, it requires a compound clip. If you watch Sam Mestman’s demo on how to use audio roles, he actually has several compounds inside of compounds.

    [Bill Davis] “In X, Compound clips are a form of Reference Clip that really just abstracts another layer of metadata and references it to the original content.”

    True, but just like nests, these often do not get correctly translated over XML.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Tony West

    January 22, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Most of the editors that I know who use a lot of compound clips do so because they are accustomed to using “nests” in a prior NLE and see this as the FCP X equivalent. “

    I use cc’s all the time. I love them because they allow easy transitions from complicated stacked layers. It also keeps me from having to scroll up and down all the time.

    When done with the edit just break them apart if you have problems with translations in other NLEs.

    When I make a cc I give it a name and add “cc” on the back of it. That allows me to find them all quickly in the timeline index. Select all and break apart in seconds. Ready for export.

  • Bob Woodhead

    January 22, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    Dude, beg your wife for some space upstairs – you deserve it! ????

    Also in ATL, what he said.

    \”Constituo, ergo sum\”

    Bob Woodhead / Atlanta
    CMX-Quantel-Avid-Premiere-FCPX-AFX-Crayola
    \”What a long strange trip it\’s been….\”

  • Bret Williams

    January 22, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    You haven’t seen our upstairs!

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    https://BretFX.com FCPX Plugins & Templates for Editors & Motion Graphics Artists
    Hang Tag https://bretfx.com/product/hang-tag
    Overshoot Text https://bretfx.com/product/overshoot-text/
    Outliner https://bretfx.com/product/outliner/
    Clock Maker https://bretfx.com/product/bretfx-clock-maker/

  • Bret Williams

    January 23, 2019 at 4:53 am

    My wife is a producer (you’re in ATL you may know Teri Lamprey) and when our daughter’s kindergarten teacher asked what Mom and Dad do for a living, she told her “they make videos in the basement.” The teacher was later relieved when we told her it was just corporate video!

    _______________________________________________________________________
    https://BretFX.com FCPX Plugins & Templates for Editors & Motion Graphics Artists
    Hang Tag https://bretfx.com/product/hang-tag
    Overshoot Text https://bretfx.com/product/overshoot-text/
    Outliner https://bretfx.com/product/outliner/
    Clock Maker https://bretfx.com/product/bretfx-clock-maker/

  • Bill Davis

    January 23, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    As I noted above, I use them too.

    But I’ve seen Libraries where an unschooled user has made a compound in one Project – Cut and pasted that Into another project, re-compounded that, with something else – then used THAT in another project – treating these reference clips like they were some kind of base clip.

    Then they go back and “clean up” their drive tossing that old first order Prohect that contained the original link – and the entire house of cards collapses with everything going offline.

    They are fine for experienced users with solid housekeeping habits.

    But can be a problem for editors who just still think of everything in their storylines like they are old style clips in a capture scratch.

    Just my experience.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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