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Speaking of FCP X editorial speed…
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No problem, Oliver.
I value ALL the opinions in a discussion like this.
X certainly isn’t ideal at everything it tries to do.
And it can’t get better if people don’t bring up things that bug them about it.
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I’m confused about one thing Oliver.
Seems to me the vast majority of my cuts in dialog driven clips will almost universally be made at natural stopping points or pauses in the dialog. I seldom cut to something else mid word unless I’m doing something like franken-byting.
In that context, what’s the point of a 2 frame audio only dissolve for normal dialog editing? Is it because of some issue with the signal to noise ratio of the audio recording where you’re trying to smooth out the sound of the background at the transition points?
Maybe it’s because I do so much VO in controlled recording situations where I count on the background to be studio-dead – but I just want to understand the circumstances where theres a audible benefit to be gained from using this kind of technique.
Wouldn’t just laying a controlled room tone walla under everything do the same job of smoothing out any cut point anomolies?
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[Bill Davis] ” Is it because of some issue with the signal to noise ratio of the audio recording where you’re trying to smooth out the sound of the background at the transition points?
“Not to answer for Oliver, but I work a lot with audio recorded in uncontrolled/semi-controlled environments and I’ll almost always add a two frame edit to the head & tail of all my dialog edits in order to smooth them out (some people are just loud breathers too boot).
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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the audio only transition that you can create in motion would save you a lot of time. I know it is not as user-friendly as you would like but it works.
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I follow you Oliver until ‘apply fade’ . Do you mean ‘command T’ or is there another command for applying an audio fade?
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[Mark Smith] “I follow you Oliver until ‘apply fade’ . Do you mean ‘command T’ or is there another command for applying an audio fade?”
In Premiere, I use the FCP7 keyboard and it’s Command+T. In FCPX, I have mapped the “Apply Fade” command to a keyboard position. I use Shift+F9 for it.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Brian Seegmiller] “but the audio only transition that you can create in motion would save you a lot of time”
I get that and that’s what the Sound Only effect is, which I have. However, what happens with J and L cuts? Or when you want a 15-frame video dissolve, but a 4-frame audio crossfade?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “[Nick Toth] “Use Alex 4D’s Sound Only transition to get a cut with an audio crossfade.”
I have it. I don’t like the fact that it gunks up the picture part of the timeline with icons for non-existant dissolves (0-frame dissolves). So I don’t find it useful and would really like to find a proper solution.
“OK, you would rather do those extra steps because you don’t like the way the transition looks in the timeline?
So now we are no longer talking about speed at this point, we are talking about “aesthetics”.
It looks like you are slowing yourself down and not the program.
I’m sure it’s OK as long as you are to charging someone by the hour ; )
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[Oliver Peters] “I get that and that’s what the Sound Only effect is, which I have. However, what happens with J and L cuts? Or when you want a 15-frame video dissolve, but a 4-frame audio crossfade?
“Give up now Oliver, I understand what you’re asking for but it’s that simple it’s obviously an issue to implement!
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[Tony West] “So now we are no longer talking about speed at this point, we are talking about “aesthetics”.”
Not at all. I want the timeline to be an accurate visual representation of what I’ve created. Those visual cues in a graphical interface are critical. To junk up the timeline with no-existent effects is not a good idea from a UI design point-of-view. I want to be able to look at a dissolve icon and know that there’s actually a dissolve there, otherwise having any transition icon on the timeline is useless.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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