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Speaking of FCP X editorial speed…
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[Steve Connor] “[Brian Seegmiller] “Even though it does not look like a cross fade is there it is. I just did an experiment. I put a cross dissolve one two clips, expanded the audio and the audio clips overlapped each other. When I played it back it was not abrupt and each clip faded in or out like a cross fade.
”I think they’re talking about audio ONLY crossfades
“The way X’s timeline is set up it pretty much eliminates the need for and audio only crossfade.
Go back and look at his timeline. He has a lot of audio there but by overlapping the clips in that trackless timeline it creates a nature crossfade. He is just putting clips over other clips to produce the sound that he wants.
I work exactly the same way in X with sound. I bet if you asked him he might say he doesn’t want to have his clips “glued together” with a crossfade transition. He would just break that apart anyway when he starts to move things around and cut them down.
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I can do audio only crossfades like I mentioned before. If your clips are butted together select both clips and then add a fade. if your clips are not butted together, select both clips and add a fade. I really don’t understand the scenario Oliver is talking about. I may be missing something. Help me understand your method.
It took me up to two clicks to add fades on these examples. In fact the same as it would take in PP.
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Lasso audio, add fade. One click and add fade using keyboard shortcut. Not 6, 23, or 51
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[Brian Seegmiller] “Lasso audio, add fade.”
AFTER you already extended the clip lengths to create an overlap and AFTER you’ve put them all into storylines.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Correct. Except, I don’t want a picture dissolve nor a dissolve icon of 0 picture duration. I want a straight cut on the picture and an audio overlap. So, to do that, you have to expand the audio and then manually extend the length of the audio portion of the clips to create an overlap. Then add fades.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Tony West] “Go back and look at his timeline. He has a lot of audio there but by overlapping the clips in that trackless timeline it creates a nature crossfade. He is just putting clips over other clips to produce the sound that he wants.”
That’s because these are SFX connected clips. No sync dialogue. Completely different scenario.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Now I understand. I would detach audio and then add a fade. But you still don’t need to make all those clicks.
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[Brian Seegmiller] “Now I understand. I would detach audio and then add a fade. But you still don’t need to make all those clicks.”
OK. Detach (or expand) two clips. Extend the length of each clip to create an overlap between the two. Add fade to each. I’m trying to understand how that would be fewer clicks.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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As amazing as his demonstration was, I am just now reading Walter Murch’s book In the Blink of an Eye and I am struck by the contrast of the thoughtful approach he takes to editing, compared the hyperspeed editing illustrated in the video above. I certainly feel I spend more time viewing and thinking than mechanically making cuts.
Maybe what is more important than how fast you can cut with a editing program is how logical and easy (not frustrating) it is. I recently had to learn Pro Tools for sound editing after using FCP7 and FCPX and Pro Tools seemed very frustrating. Although the teacher, who uses it professionally, can make it fly.
Another thought about the video, this is a short montage and the need for cuts to emphasize a narrative are not there.
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Sorry Oliver I just don’t know why you need to extend and overlap audio clips to create a fade. In your example of a video cut with audio fade only, after detaching audio they are butted together. Select one of the clips and then add fade, FCP X will automatically add the handles needed for the fade. No need to overlap or extend. Of course this is your scenario of a cut on a video with a fade on audio only. Yes you have one extra step in FCP X, but not all the clicks you mentioned. Lets say you have 5 interviews and you want to fade the audio only between them. Select all video clips and choose detach audio. Select all audio clips and then add fade to add to all audio clips. I think you can do all this with keystrokes.
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