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Sony Vegas 10?
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Well, you need more than a few hours for excitement — just when did Sony post this? CS5 is actually shipping, isn’t it?
And yet, well, yeah, it’s kind of a mixed bag.
GPU acceleration is a key technology for 2010. Thing is, it’s not just for rendering, but for visualization and plug-ins. Rendering — great, I want faster rendering, and I’ve been waiting for a GPU upgrade based on where Sony’s going with this.
But honestly, I can dedicate a PC or two to overnight rendering on a long Blu-Ray project. What I need more than anything is accelerated editing. That’s the big deal for new NLEs this year… Grass Valley did it back in January, and Adobe with Premiere CS5 back around the NAB show. This ought to be priority #1.
Sony themselves are obsessed with stereoscopic technology. Lots of the CE companies are. So it’s no shock they’re building support into Vegas and DVDA to support this. And that’s just dandy, but not something most users are going to need. EVERYONE needs faster editing, and even Sony’s jumped on the AVCHD bandwagon for both consumer and pro cameras. This needs to be faster.
I’m glad to see some of the little things fixed. Audio plug-ins at the event level… hey, great — why we never had that before, while we had video event level plug-ins, I never understood. Track grouping… great — something I asked for in Acid five or more years ago. Nice to see it here.
And yeah, enhanced plug-in architecture. This has been holding Vegas back, versus some of the other NLEs. The problem was simple: they let Microsoft design their plug-in API. You can’t expect non-video-NLE people to get this right. They had a similar problem in audio before finally caving in and supporting VST plug-ins. The Open Effects Association (https://www.openeffects.org/) looks real, but it’s also new.
Image stabilization… isn’t that just a plug-in? One that’s already available here and there? Not a problem, but “new plug-in” isn’t the big news I want see in a new release. Sony should concentrate on features that only Sony can add to Vegas.
-Dave
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I dunno, I am kind of excited about the closed captioning thing. I want to do lots more with that, and wrote Sony twice about closed captioning. I am kind of thrilled to see them announce more support for that. Where can I learn more about how that implements?
Also, I wrote Sony maybe three times to ask them to offer more FX native in Vegas, and I am thrilled to see them lay the groundwork for that also. It would be nice not to ever have to leave Vegas 🙂 Will our existing plug-ins still work in Vegas 10?
I still have so much to learn about Vegas 9, and now they are coming out with 10….
Norman Willis
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There’s lots of stuff for specific uses… I’ve never needed CC, but I can appreciate the advantages of having this directly in Vegas, rather than some kind of add-on.
I’m also a little more excited about the stabilizer, after reading that it’s from ProDAD, and also does rolling shutter correction… I have multiple HD cameras, all CMOS, and I’m considering adding video DSLR at some point. When these things crop up, it would be nice to have an optional band-aid to apply. Between OIS, tripods, and Glidecam, I haven’t had much call for “stabilization in post”. Still nice to know, if I do need it, there it is.
-Dave
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I agree with Dave, they need to think about things that we use every day, not just 3D. Although I am excited about not needing to upgrade my Stabilization plug-in, I think they missed the ball on this one. I need to be able to see how things look in editing, NOT after it is rendered. I like Dave, often plan to render overnight, so only using the GPU for AVC rendering matters little. I like what John is saying about the FX stuff though…that sounds like it’s somewhat important. The fact that they also bumped the price a $100 for a new program, is again questionable. If gamers can get 30+ fps while gaming, why can’t we get at least 25 when rendering using a GPU…that is where I think ALL Vegas users can agree! I can appreciate Sony looking at the creative side…but they need to look at the workflow side as well!
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Will this speed up render times of the h.264 codec in both the MainConcept and Sony AVC formats? Will there be any new render formats?
If it works like it does in Vegas Movie Studio HD 10, this for the Sony AVC renderer only. There is an additional option to turn GPU rendering on and off in Movie Studio 10.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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I just wrote them and asked about GPU accelerated preview.
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/support/productsuggestion.asp
Norman Willis
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Thanks John for the clarification, I see the difference now.
As a result, developing a velocity envelope plug-in (as I was planning to do ) with the current SDK is not feasible, but it might be doable with OFX. Except that Movie Studio does not support OFX, so it won’t be possible. and such envelopes already exist in the Pro version…
BTW, as OFX is not supported by Movie Studio, it means that newly developed OFX plug-ins won’t work in Movie Studio.
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BTW, as OFX is not supported by Movie Studio, it means that newly developed OFX plug-ins won’t work in Movie Studio.
That is correct. It is only supported in the Pro version.
~jr
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I agree that accelerated preview was something I *hoped* to see in 10. This is most disappointing. Please, Sony, get this done sooner than later. I don’t want to go to FCP for *all* my work. I’m continuing to find myself pushed this way…..
As to CC, it seems to me that with YouTube’s huge investment there, that we will be seeing more of this as a requirement in the near future, especially in government sponsored video, which I deal with currently. I, for one, am working on CC’ing my videos in all work. If customers don’t ask for it, I’m going to remind them that their parents probably can’t hear our work.
I for one, do work with HDSLR as well as AVCHD (Panasonic) so I’m happy any time that Sony wants to make improvements in both of these. And believe me, working with Canon HDSLR cameras is problematic today in 9.x
As to other feature sets, I’m just VERY glad to see Sony moving this platform forward. I LOVE this NLE compared to others I work in, it’s much simpler to use, and does 90% of what I need, so keep it moving forward.
As to 3d, I agree, I’m pushing the client envelope just being in HD. Heck, I’ve wondered if it’s worth shooting HD given my customer needs (G). I’m certainly not going to downgrade, but HD is being driven by me, not the customers! But you and I both know, that if Sony didn’t do 3d, it would be viewed as another ‘nail in the coffin’. So let’s just say, yeah, and move on folks.
Alf
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I like John’s point that if a lot of big firms do 3D films (even if it is a passing fad) it may bring some of the industry towards Vegas. I remember a thread not too long ago where people were upset that we were ‘losing the war’ to FCP. If Sony really is courting the big-time film makers, and Vegas gets known as ‘the platform’ that will certainly help Vegas’ cause. DSLR support will also help this (for the same reasons).
I agree that accelerated preview would be highly desirable. But I am able to keep up (pretty much) on a CoreDuo Quad just by converting to Cineform .avi and putting things on Preview > Auto (i.e., ‘fuzzy’). Are the Core i7 systems not able to keep up?
Another thing that people keep mentioning is much better Beta testing before a major release. That sounds reasonable.
Norman Willis
http://www.nazareneisrael.org
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