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Someone give me quaintifiable evidence of FCPX market penetration. Features. Industrials. Commercials. Weddings. Where?
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[Scott Witthaus] “How can one make an informed decision or commentary then they are forced to one platform? I know this is the reality for many staff editors at larger shops.”
Speaking as an artist, of course I always want to use my favorite tools… but speaking as a project manager, the idea of everyone on a team getting to use whatever software they like best, without regard for the pipeline, makes me break out in a cold sweat.
(Jeremy, I hope you don’t mind, but I borrowed a few commas.)
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “(Jeremy, I hope you don’t mind, but I borrowed a few commas.)”
That’s it!
As Comma Chameleon, I am calling the Comma Police!
https://youtu.be/IBH97ma9YiI?t=26s
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Feels to me like a completely useless and boring thread. The good old times are back (-:
– Ronny
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[Ronny Courtens] “Feels to me like a completely useless and boring thread. The good old times are back (-:”
I’d be curious to understand how evidence of market penetration (or evidence to the contrary) would actually impact anyone’s thinking here.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Reminds me of two decisions I made in the 1980’s. First, I went Betamax vs VHS. Lost that one. Then I went Mac vs PC. That looked really dicey before the second coming of Steve Jobs. I went Blu-ray vs HD-DVD and in the end it hardly mattered. With the abandonment of FCP7 by Apple, the choice was learn something structurally different or go to PP, which was more familiar. Apple’s roll out was close to a disaster.
Now I think market share probably matters to get jobs and to find collaborations.
As in the 80’s, I went with FCPX and I am not going back. However, I don’t depend on this for a living, like many on the forum.
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[Scott Witthaus] ” I know this is the reality for many staff editors at larger shops.”
Even freelancers in larger markets have to go with the prevailing winds. The biggest knock against X for me is that I can’t make a living as a freelance editor in LA with X. Assuming X follows a similar path as Legend then in the next 3-5 years X will become a more viable option for types like me.
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[Andrew Kimery] “The biggest knock against X for me is that I can’t make a living as a freelance editor in LA with X.”
To some extent this is a chicken-or-egg problem. A producer or production manager isn’t going to bless the use of a given tool on a large project unless there is staff. If I hire an editor and the preference is for FCP X, then I’m stuck with that person. If their work is unsatisfactory or the project runs longer than they contracted for and have to move on, then I have to replace them with another editor who is savvy on X. Right not that pool is not very deep at the top end.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Walter, I don’t think it would. That’s why I say this discussion feels useless to me.
– Ronny
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[Walter Soyka] “I’d be curious to understand how evidence of market penetration (or evidence to the contrary) would actually impact anyone’s thinking here.
“It wouldn’t effect mine that much. I was using X when it first came out and people were really talking bad about it.
My experience from St. Louis, or these days I should say that city that’s attached to Ferguson.
I have worked this market as a freelancer for over 20 years from commercial work to national news to sports.
Production houses, stations I have pretty much worked almost every place in this town at one point.I’m also on the executive board of our union which has a contract with all the stations and most houses along with 90 percent of the freelancers. it’s a great town to work.
The breakdown
FOX SPORTS Midwest staff use AVID in-house but freelances on the trucks for games us X
So split one to one.NBC Affiliate Edius
CBS producers were using X and legacy but that station just got bought by a company that owns other stations that have AVID so last I heard they were going to bring AVID in. I don’t if producers will still use XLocal PBS does a great deal of production and live shows. They actually use all 3 AVID Prp and X
the commercial editors love X so it’s a 3 way splitPost houses that I have been in recently had more Prp than anything.
Since everybody in the market knew me as an early adapter to X many folks who want to know about it approach me. Within the last month I have had 2 people say to me they were gonna start using X
One wedding and a one man band.That’s my market.
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[Ronny Courtens] “Feels to me like a completely useless and boring thread.”
Exactly. Totally useless thread. “Show’s over, folks. Move on….”
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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