So have you switched to Premiere Pro?

[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “no CC for me yet – but 6 can be pretty irritating in the timeline – twitchy tools and tiny dissolve icons and the patching madness, bunch of other stuff – I’ve used it on jobs for getting on for a month in bits and pieces now. It’s also pretty crashy.”

For me the big thing about CC is the patching is much better.

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Oliver Peters]

I would point out that there are some very nice tricks in PProCC and CS6. For example, you can map the “open in viewer” command to a key, so no need to double-click master clips to load. This is more in comparing to FCP7 and MC than X, of course.

If you like to cut a selects reel as a sequence and then cut from that to a shorter sequence, then simply stack the two timeline tabs above each other. The “canvas” instantly responds to the clip you are on, so you can quickly go back-and-forth between two timelines. Easy to drag selected clips from one to the other. If you leave the effects controls pane open when you do this, it’s also super easy to copy & paste effects between timelines.

Also a very nice built-in curves tools for the color correction crowd. Many of the NI FxF filters and a lot of those from their partner developers also show up in PPro.

The new Link & Locate function seems to be one of the best I’ve seen in an NLE. Very versatile when you need to relink to different media, as in going offline to online. Not as opaque as X or MC.

– Oliver

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[Timothy Auld]

Pretty good for straight editing. Still a cluster f**k for multicam. I wish I could just choose what to work with but in my case it’s just not that simple. There is a serious base out there (especially in docs) that is entrenched in FCP 7 and they will be until it finally dies the true death. Same situation with Avid. More and more I use what the project comes to me in. If one comes to me in FCPX then I’ll use that.

Tim

[Rocky Robinson]

I actually like the FCPX interface, but I’ve found that Adobe CC just works better than FCPX on my old machine. MacPro 3,1 with Nvidia Gforce 8800, and an AJA card. Maybe a new graphics card would make a huge performance difference? Can’t afford to answer that question right now.

So, for me, FCPX was too sluggish all around. And even with some time in it, just feels clumsy for a lot of things. And the project management is a big negative. I mean trying to load everything at once, or make me go hide things, it’s just a strange way to work, and a little bit annoying. If I was working one project at a time, it wouldn’t be a big deal…But it’s not they way I work at my job.

Oh, and the Restoring Window Layout thing was such a huge show stopper for me…Bit hard 3 times for that, so the last time I got around it I finished all my FCPX projects and have been in Adobe since.

I really do need a new machine…Neither program seems as smooth as FCP 7 did. But the CC’s got better audio, better integration with Photoshop, I like Media Encoder over Compressor. Tracks and Bins, though I didn’t find FCPX’s new way of orginizing that offputting, I’m not an organization freak, so it really requires some extra head wrapping around….Not so with Adobe CC.

Multicam in FCPX is da bomb, though. And you can’t beat the price.

[Chris Harlan]

Yeah, I’ve been cutting with it. I like it well enough, though I’m not deep in yet. My biggest peeve is that there is no button to universally turn linking off, and since I like to work that way, I get a bit resentful at having to hit the option key every time I click on something. Over all, I’m pretty impressed, and if left to my own devices, I could see it becoming my main choice. Avid still trims better, though. I’m hoping to have some time in the coming weeks to just play on both. I haven’t cracked MC7 at all yet.

I’m having fun, though, and am enjoying some of the gee-whiz tools.

[Lance Bachelder]

Yeah I agree about the new re-linking, so fast and easy – nothing like re-linking in FCPX which requires a lot of manual drilling down before it can actually “search” for a file.

So many little things to like about CC like using the mouse wheel to expand/shrink a track, scalable thumbnails in the bins and hover scrubbing so nice. Above all is just so fast with the right CUDA card.

For the record I’ve tested Premiere CC with a GTX 570 gamer card and the new AMD W7000 FirePro card (on a Win 7 workstation) – the GTX blew away the AMD at less than half the price – this makes me wary of the new Mac Pro which is AMD based, my guess is Apple is going to optimize FCPX for AMD but for Premiere nVidia is still king.

Lance Bachelder
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[David Lawrence]

[Chris Harlan] “My biggest peeve is that there is no button to universally turn linking off, and since I like to work that way, I get a bit resentful at having to hit the option key every time I click on something.”

Premiere CC has this button (Linked Selection – Q). Lots of other improvements too, like pressing D to select the clip under the playhead. Excellent. Patching is better but still room for improvement, for example, copy/paste on the timeline still doesn’t respect track source when pasting, i.e. if I have V1 and V2 enabled and I copy from V2, when I paste it should paste back into V2, not V1 by default.

I liked the 30-day demo a lot. But I find Adobe’s new business model completely unacceptable. Back to CS6 until Adobe management comes to their senses. I can wait.

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Lawrence] “Back to CS6 until Adobe management comes to their senses. I can wait.”

I really hope you’re not holding your breath or anything… 😉

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[Walter Soyka]

[Oliver Peters] “If you like to cut a selects reel as a sequence and then cut from that to a shorter sequence, then simply stack the two timeline tabs above each other. The “canvas” instantly responds to the clip you are on, so you can quickly go back-and-forth between two timelines. Easy to drag selected clips from one to the other. If you leave the effects controls pane open when you do this, it’s also super easy to copy & paste effects between timelines.”

Premiere Pro CC also now has sequence-to-sequence editing, which I’m sure selects reel editors can also appreciate.

There’s a toggle switch on the timeline, the very first one under the timeline’s timecode display, called “Insert and overwrite sequences as nests or individual clips.”

When it’s on, a sequence from the source monitor gets cut into the timeline as a nest (the way it always has in Premiere). When it’s off, the clips from the sequence get cut (with effects & layers) into the timeline as clips.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka]

[Steve Connor] “Due to a technical problem I’ve been forced to move from FCPX to PPro CC for the next month to cut a 90 minute event documentary project and to be honest I’m finding it a very pleasant experience so far.”

Steve, it is a massive breach of etiquette around here to admit to liking more than one NLE at the same time!

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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