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  • Posted by Chris Reynolds on May 16, 2005 at 10:24 pm

    Hi All
    In one of our edit suites (FCP 4.5, Decklink extreme, OSX 10.3.8, infotrend Fibrechannel raid) we are editing a documentry (DVcam 70 hours of footage). We have broken the project down as much as we can but the time line is so slugish, even a new timline with hardly any cuts. It playes fine but trimming, slipping and draging clips around with the mouse is painful. We have cut other lonform jobs with at least 50 hours of footage no problem. I have run the system off the ghost drive, done hardware checks and patched the fibrechanel into another suite with no improvement. The only think I can put it down to is that the editor on the job has used a huge amount of markers (due to the nature of the job). We are mainly a commercial post house, and the longform jobs that we have done to date have run like clock work, so my experience with large project is little. Would love to hear your feedback.

    Cheers Chris

    http://www.activemotion.com.au

    Chris Reynolds replied 20 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Kevin Monahan

    May 16, 2005 at 10:34 pm

    Is your fibre single channel or multi channel?

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Chris Reynolds

    May 16, 2005 at 11:20 pm

    Its single channel runing at 160 mb sec read and 140 write, so for DV Pal this shouldn’t be a problem. I run 10bit on it all the time.

    Cheers, Chris

  • Kevin Monahan

    May 16, 2005 at 11:30 pm

    How many sequences are in this project? Are there any oversized stills in the sequence?

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Peter Wiggins

    May 16, 2005 at 11:31 pm

    Have you tried running FCP rescue?

    Peter

    https://www.peterwiggins.com

  • Chris Reynolds

    May 17, 2005 at 12:12 am

    The Main Project has about 25 Sequences in it. We then have a cut down project with abut 7 sequences in it. Both run the same.

  • Chris Reynolds

    May 17, 2005 at 12:14 am

    I haven’t, but runing of the clean ghost drive and also of another suite sould have the same results.

    Cheers, Chris

  • Kevin Monahan

    May 17, 2005 at 12:19 am

    Are your clips derived from tape roll captures, or did you batch capture clip by clip? How long are the original media files? Murch and Cullen found that clips derived from tape rolls bogs down a lengthy timeline.

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Chris Reynolds

    May 17, 2005 at 12:42 am

    Hi Kevin
    The Clips were capture with capture clip, between 15min and 30 min max. I am not sure what you mean by clips derived from tape roll captures. They all have a different reel No. but were capture a tape at a time.

    Cheers, Chris

  • Kevin Monahan

    May 17, 2005 at 1:19 am

    Chris,
    In my opinion, your media files are too long. Simply put, if you are deriving multiple cuts from long media files, you’ll run into trouble. Each clip should be relatively short and captured separately with its own discrete media file. I know that’s not what you want to hear, but it’s what Murch and Cullen found when editing Cold Mountain. I also ascribe to this theory, but then again, I’ve always worked that way coming from an Avid background when drives were much smaller and we had to be more conservative in how media was captured, stored and managed. IOW, our clips were only as big as they needed to be. FCP has always functioned better with short, discrete media files in my experience, so I agree with Murch and Cullen’s findings. I am sure that many people will not agree with me, but I’ve had few problems with FCP over the years with this conservative approach.

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Chris Reynolds

    May 17, 2005 at 2:02 am

    Thanks Kevin
    How short are we talking. The other long form with 50 hours in it had longer clips and it ran fine. At leased %50 of the clips are around 15min long in this project and the other %50 around 30 min each. Once all captured the first week of cutting was fine. As more of the footage has been mark and a few more select sequence have been created then the project slow down. If we capture even smaller clips (less than 15min) then aren’t we just adding more information for the project to track. I have heard rummors of people having a corrupt clip in the project that slowed everthing down. Never has happened to me so I don’t know if this can happen or not.

    Cheers again, Chris

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