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Should I wait for FCP X??
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[Vincent Strader] “That scares me. As a past Discreet *Edit editor any time I hear of companies dropping support for programs that have become loved just irritates me to no end. Talk to any editor that worked with *Edit. That program was magic. And now so may Apple programs I’ve come to love are also “magic.”
“Video Guys” are a sponsor for COW aren’t they? I read on their site that FCPX might be a step down from FCP7? “
Frankly, nobody (who’s allowed to talk about it) actually knows anything. The current “sky is falling” response to FCP X is mostly just a product of the same mindset that has had some folks to speculate over the last couple of years that Apple would exit the pro video market altogether, which turned out not to be the case.
[Vincent Strader]
And 299 for the whole program? Is that cheap? I work with FCP7 now but I don’t handle the books in the office, all this stuff is purchased for me. Was FCP7 by itself around that price?FCP has in recent years only been available as part of the Final Cut Studio bundle, which is $999. $299 doesn’t seem especially out of line for just Final Cut Pro, and you can’t really read anything about the hypothetical cancelation of other apps into the fact that Apple has unbundled Final Cut Pro, because Apple also unbundled iLife and iWork when putting their apps in the App Store — the App Store just doesn’t sell bundles.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read What is FCP X’s relationship to iMovie? on our blog.
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[Chris Kenny] “$299 doesn’t seem especially out of line for just Final Cut Pro”
I think people in Production and Post Production should be required to have business certification before commenting on business and marketing rather than the technical and creative aspects of tools. Not directed at you Chris but to all the people who take take into the business aspects.
Maybe I learned from doing all the corporate videos in which marketing people would explain to me why they were doing what they were doing.
Apple no longer needs to master discs, print boxes, warehouse and ship those boxes with discs. They have an enormous cost savings. They can certainly drop the price based on that alone. In addition, major updates no longer have to be locked into longer cycles since at no point will they have to burn new discs.
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[Craig Seeman] “Apple no longer needs to master discs, print boxes, warehouse and ship those boxes with discs. They have an enormous cost savings. They can certainly drop the price based on that alone. In addition, major updates no longer have to be locked into longer cycles since at no point will they have to burn new discs.”
And don’t forget the fact that the lower price will probably allow them to recapture quite a number of sales presently lost to piracy, help them win the ecosystem battle against their competitors, and probably spur prosumer sales that never would have otherwise occurred.
(I hesitate to mention that last point in this forum, because some seem to almost believe there’s something wrong with software that has crossover appeal to the consumer market, but I think that’s just silly.)
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read What is FCP X’s relationship to iMovie? on our blog.
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[Chris Kenny] “recapture quite a number of sales presently lost to piracy,”
Others have pointed out that too. Given the nature of the App Store and its tie to an iTunes account, it will make piracy a bit more difficult.
[Chris Kenny] “some seem to almost believe there’s something wrong with software that has crossover appeal to the consumer market, but I think that’s just silly”
Another ecosystem vertical grab by Apple. Brilliant if you thing about it. Today’s 10 year old home editor will be quite capable of being the 20 year old working with a decade of familiarity even though just starting at the facility. It’ll be the kind of “muscle memory” Avid editors start learning at a much later age. So if you wanted to hire talented young gun staff and freelancers you’d go with what NLE?
People don’t seem to get how smart Apple is about this.
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Hi Siu Kei Ip
Just as Chris, Andreas and others have pointed out, the latest generation MBP is a great machine and essentially a new model and therefore has a “buy now” status.. If you have the money put aside already, sure, go ahead. I am suggesting however that if you do not need (or just desperately want) to buy it right now then waiting can do you no harm and might actually provide you some small if unlikely advantage to do so. There is always the possibility of glitches in Rev A hardware just as there can be issues in Version 1.0 software. If you are not in a hurry then you can happily let others buy the brand new model and help Apple to uncover any potential glitches, and then when you come to buy you may be lucky enough to be picking up Rev B model.
Whatever you choose to do, hope you enjoy the new hardware … and the new software in June.
Cheers
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Thx all for the replies
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I think breaking the suite apart isn’t such a bad thing… no longer is Apple forced to update EVERY app at the same time. Cocoa code is easier to write and the apps written in it will likely mature faster because of this. 299 for FCP X? It’s about the same price it’s been since the suite was put together if you think about it, and it’s not forcing you to buy Color, STP, DVD SP and Motion at the same time.
Remember the new features of FCS 2009? Most of them were in Motion because I suspect that it was much easier for the team to add features to, it is written in Cocoa, like FCP X is.
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Over the responses I’ve been encouraged not to worry. However one of my lines was misquoted. I did not say 299 was out of line. I said it seemed way too cheap for FCP alone. Which would be a good thing we all would agree, it just made me do a double take.
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I hate that FCP X will look like iMovie, the people in school for video editing now will be disappointed.
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>I hate that FCP X will look like iMovie, the people in school for video editing now will be disappointed.
Why?
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