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Should Apple attend NAB this year?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Capture from tape absolutely required third party in legacy, and fcp7s interface to plug in to sucked. “
I beg to differ. I captured all the time directly into FCP via Log and Capture. Batch captured, captured now…output to tape. ALL within FCP. I never used the capture/output apps provided by AJA, Matrox, or BMD. It was not “absolutely required.”
[Jeremy Garchow] “My feeling is that with AJA Control Room, things will be just fine in tape capture/output as AJA and other companies get to interface with their own hardware the best way they can. “
Will that allow for offline/online? BATCH capturing? Logging and capturing? I’ll ask Jon.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “My feeling is that with AJA Control Room, things will be just fine in tape capture/output as AJA and other companies get to interface with their own hardware the best way they can.”
[Shane Ross] “Will that allow for offline/online? BATCH capturing? Logging and capturing? I’ll ask Jon.”
What about insert edits? What would the FCPX/AJA Control Room workflow be to fix a couple seconds on tape with a typo in the super, or to try to punch in and repair a single-frame digital error?
When time is of the essence, isn’t having this right in the NLE important?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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You might want to look at what AJA is doing with Control Room and VTR Xchange.
https://www.aja.com/products/softwareIt’s possible they’re heading towards a complete to/from tape that’s a bit deeper than dump in dump out.
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[Craig Seeman] “It’s possible they’re heading towards a complete to/from tape that’s a bit deeper than dump in dump out.”
Yes, I see that — but isn’t exporting a small section of an FCPX project still a convoluted affair? I’m trying to picture the entire workflow for inserting a correction to tape, and it seems a lot longer than mark in, mark out, edit to tape. Maybe I’m missing something.
Tape is going to be interesting. As fewer people use, I think the ones who are using it are going to be more demanding.
Walter Soyka
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[Shane Ross] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Capture from tape absolutely required third party in legacy, and fcp7s interface to plug in to sucked. ”
I beg to differ. I captured all the time directly into FCP via Log and Capture. Batch captured, captured now…output to tape. ALL within FCP. I never used the capture/output apps provided by AJA, Matrox, or BMD. It was not “absolutely required.””
Ditto that. Drivers might have been required from 3rd parties, but Log and Capture is what I used almost exclusively for years.
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[Walter Soyka] “What about insert edits? What would the FCPX/AJA Control Room workflow be to fix a couple seconds on tape with a typo in the super, or to try to punch in and repair a single-frame digital error?
When time is of the essence, isn’t having this right in the NLE important?
“Absolutely, If I was still in a mostly tape i/o based environment I would be very nervous about using FCPX.
Steve Connor
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I’m using it right now. Never handled timecode breaks particularly well – which always annoyed me – but by and large log and capture and batch capture aways worked well for me.
Tim
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[Walter Soyka] “Yes, I see that — but isn’t exporting a small section of an FCPX project still a convoluted affair? I’m trying to picture the entire workflow for inserting a correction to tape, and it seems a lot longer than mark in, mark out, edit to tape. Maybe I’m missing something.”
But if 10.0.3 signifies anything, it’s that Apple is serious about making improvements. I think partial export will happen. For tape you will have to send to third party. I don’t think it’s a deal breaker though. In my broadcast days, going back to do an insert wasn’t something one assumed as a workflow so much as fix that one avoided. Granted you want to be able to do it when you have to.
I’m not sure if this will mean as much in 3 years from now. A lot changes in just a very few short years. in 2004 YouTube didn’t exist. In 2006 there was no Ustream or Hulu. At the start of 2010 there was no iPad. In 3 years the improvements in codec, bandwidth, storage, delivery may be dramatically different. Changes have been fast and they have been radical.
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Kind of seems like they have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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[Craig Seeman] “In my broadcast days, going back to do an insert wasn’t something one assumed as a workflow so much as fix that one avoided. Granted you want to be able to do it when you have to.
“Oddly, I think that’s one of the issues that defines the Industrial-strength dividing line we so debate here–the granularity and precision required to routinely deal with the fixes that one wants to avoid. 97% of the time I don’t need an .edl; 3% of the time its indispensable. Most of the time I don’t need anywhere near all of the torque that FCS provided; but when I do, I really do.
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