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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Shooting/Editing for unusual display: 720×2560

  • Walter Soyka

    August 3, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    [Kenny Powerass] “It’s not such a specific thing that I’m worried about what area is action safe. I think as long as the speaker’s face is visible it doesn’t make a big difference. I’ll err on the side of leaving too much on the sides just to avoid him looking like he’s a big dude stuck in a box.”

    It might be worth doing a low-res “storyboard” showing some different framings that you can discuss with your clients before your shoot.

    [Kenny Powerass] “I actually tried it in Motion last night. It looked OK to me, but I don’t know for sure that it’ll look as good on a screen ten times the size. That’s why I’m looking for tips.”

    As long as you work at the native resolution and output without substantial compression, it will be fine.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • Mark Petereit

    August 3, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    I use Motion to create double-wide 2560 x 720 video for our 2-wide blended projection system at church. Works great!

  • Kenny Powerass

    August 3, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Awesome. How do you shoot it and do you compress it at all?
    With your experience, would you recommend I shoot sideways at the highest resolution and then rotate it in Motion?
    Thanks!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 3, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    [Kenny Powerass] “With your experience, would you recommend I shoot sideways at the highest resolution and then rotate it in Motion?”

    I’d shoot vertical, yes. you are going to have to edit vertical as well. I’d keep it at a 1280×720 timeline, then scale the clips down in that timeline to simulate your final aspect ratio. Then send the entire edit to Motion at the end and correct for the PAR.

    Jeremy

  • Mark Petereit

    August 3, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    One thing I would be sure of first — Does it actually play 720 x 2560 (vertical) videos? Or does it play 2560 x 720 (horizontal) videos?

    The reason I ask is because we have vertical signage at church, but it runs horizontal video because the displays themselves are rotated (like yours). So when I design content, I design it horizontal, rotated 90-degrees to the left, since the displays themselves are rotated 90-degrees to the right.

  • Walter Soyka

    August 3, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I’d shoot vertical, yes. you are going to have to edit vertical as well. I’d keep it at a 1280×720 timeline, then scale the clips down in that timeline to simulate your final aspect ratio.”

    I agree with Jeremy — except that I’d shoot progressive at 1920×1080 to get closer to the target resolution.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Kenny Powerass

    August 3, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    The specs they sent me indicate the file I should give them as 720 pixels wide x 2560 pixels high, so they’ve already accounted for the rotation.

  • Lynette Gilbert

    August 4, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    I’m sorry that someone suggested you should pass the job by. I didn’t think for a moment that this was something beyond your abilities. I get freelancing jobs all the time where I have to figure out something crazy, and a few times it’s been really strange aspect ratios. It’s never been anything like 720×2560, but my solution usually is to work in both Motion and FCP, and I can usually figure out a solution by playing around with different settings. I have yet to turn down a job because I couldn’t figure out their weird demands, and it usually is because the people on here are so helpful.

    But I will add, I’ve had people on Cow make rude remarks to me a few times, too, and it just DOES NOT HELP. Every once in a while there are people here that are total novices, but I personally work in FCP EVERY day, both in my day job and in freelancing. When I have a problem, I’m able to figure it out on my own 99% of the time, but sometimes one needs input from one’s peers. For me, Cow is a last resort after everything else has failed. And I think most people who come here for help are in a similar situation. We are professionals, and even if someone asks a “dumb” question or you think that they are completely clueless, everyone should be treated with respect. We all had to start somewhere, we didn’t just sit down in front of FCP with all the answers.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 4, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    [Lynette Gilbert] “We all had to start somewhere, we didn’t just sit down in front of FCP with all the answers.”

    I don’t think anyone could work in this industry without problem solving, it’s part of the job. Nice post, Lynette.

    Jeremy

  • James Mortner

    August 6, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Great constructive advice there, Steve. Thanks for stopping by.

    Doesn’t FCP handle up to 4096 ? And surely you can figure out a solution to mesh video and graphic elements ? I do a lot of weird aspect ratios for outdoor stuff and DEP and it all works rather well

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