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  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    I used Compressor 3.0.2 on some footage the other day and I was blown away at the quality.

    What kind of SD and what format of HD are you going to?

    Jeremy

  • Earle Nichol

    December 4, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    I’m with Shane, software coversion is a mushy road to go down. We’ve tested everything from compressor to Nitris in our facility. A few years ago we went with the mini Teranex and it has been awesome. We still use it depending on the project, but more often than not we use our Kona 3 boxes.

    pearl

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    [Pearl] “software coversion is a mushy road to go down”

    It’s not exactly cut and dry. it really depends on what format you are starting with and what format you are going to and if there’s retiming involved. Interlaced, progressive and frame rate, let alone the scaling.

    Jeremy

  • Arnie Schlissel

    December 4, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Not to mention what kind of look you’re after. If you don’t want a particularly crisp, clean look, it’s possible to do quite an interesting job in software.

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  • Earle Nichol

    December 4, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    Hey Jeremy, you’re right it’s not cut and dry, but you also get what you pay for. Scaling up through software, changing framerates, rendering out multiple QT’s, almost always equals “soft video” Hardware does it in one pass, and has much cleaner results…especially if you’re going to be putting said video through more FX on the timeline.

    I love softeware too, but hardware kicks butt in this game.

    pearl

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    Yeah, I don’t disagree. But for the amount of money you can save and depending on what your footage is, it’s not a one stop solution. I chose to go with COMpressor the other day as i was more satisfied with the results than a Kona upconvert. But that was on this particular footage, and there’s other times when a Kona upconvert is better.

    All I am saying is, there’s options and it’s not always a hardware game. Hardware is real time though. That is convenient.

    Jeremy

  • Chris Poisson

    December 5, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    REsizer faster than Compressor? Not when I tested it about a year ago, they must have fixed it, it was really slow. Compressor does an really good job on this.

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Sean Oneil

    December 5, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    Has anyone seen a movie on TNT-HD? The majority of them are Teranex upconverts (you can tell because the AR is a warped 4:3 stretched to 16:9). And they look awesome. A lot better than SD. Upconverting CAN improve the image quality if done right, mainly because the process itself lowers the pixel aliasing. And when using a Teranex for example, it also has noise reduction and other techniques to improve the quality.

  • Rafael Amador

    December 6, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    [Wayne Carey] “othing beats a good hardware conversion.”

    Hi Waine,
    I’m sorry but i do not agree with you. I don’t mean that a Teranex don’t make a better job than Compressor or what ever application. I mean that if a Teranex do a better job is just because runs a better software than Compressor.
    When you convert digital to digital (not talking analog-digital) the hardware is just doing the same maths than you CPU could be doing. Faster, but the same.
    Jeremy comments few days ago that when he upconvert DVCPro50 to 10b Unc with his Panasonic desk, he get better results that when he do the conversion with FC.
    OK, but why? Because Panasonic (the developer of the codec) know better than nobody else how to manage it. And they keeps their secret for the people willing to pay 8.000$ for a desk. And the secret is just a better software installed in the vtr.When we go fro analog to digital, the hardware is critic for the digitalization. Once in the digital world the only thing that hardware can do is to run some software faster than your computer.
    Rafael

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  • Walter Biscardi

    December 6, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    [rafalaos] “OK, but why? Because Panasonic (the developer of the codec) know better than nobody else how to manage it.”

    Actually, Panasonic is the first to admit that the AJA Kona and the Panasonic decks have the same Upconversion capabilities. I’m not sure if AJA worked with Panny on this, but even my reseller said they’re essentially the same boards in the decks.

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