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[Herb Sevush] “I’ll take your word for it until I actually try it out.”
That sounds reasonable.
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[Steve Connor] “I never disconnect the audio so sync is never a problem”
And I’ve always disconnected all my audio in every NLE I’ve used, and sync has also never a problem for me because they’ve all had ways to re-establish sync. The idea that you have to piggy back your unused video onto your audio clips in the timeline because the program is so inept that it can’t get it back for you is a classic example of why some folks, with their own peculiar work habits, think that X is not necessarily a huge step forward.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “That sounds reasonable.”
You make me smile.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “why some folks, with their own peculiar work habits, think that X is not necessarily a huge step forward.”
Thats true, if you want to work in more or less the same way you always have then FCPX is most definitely not for you, I can totally respect that.
FCPX requires at least some level of change although I haven’t changed my style of editing as much as others have here.
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Herb Sevush] “The idea that you have to piggy back your unused video onto your audio clips in the timeline because the program is so inept that it can’t get it back for you is a classic example of why some folks, with their own peculiar work habits, think that X is not necessarily a huge step forward.”
Hey man, no argument form me about sync markers, they should be there, but they aren’t so you make do with what you have.
If you have a lone audio clip that you need your video back for, you match frame back and hit option-r. This will replace a video clip with your audio lickety split.
Shift-f, option-r, bake some cakes. Or match frame back and hit q to add a new instance of a clip as a connected clip.
There’s really easy easy to bring back the audio, but it doesn’t look anything like an out of sync marker.
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[Steve Connor] “Thats true, if you want to work in more or less the same way you always have then FCPX is most definitely not for you, I can totally respect that.”
There are many things about my workflow I’m willing to change, however …
[Steve Connor] “FCPX requires at least some level of change although I haven’t changed my style of editing as much as others have here.”
Other than the need for a sophisticated multicam feature, which X has, being able to work without locking my audio to my video is one of my most important requirements. PPro is better than X in this regard but it still is not good enough.
I’ve been cutting this way since I started with film 40 years ago, I believe it is the “best” way to work even if others don’t, and I believe in my elitist heart of hearts that any software designer who doesn’t allow for this way of working doesn’t understand editing.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “I’ve been cutting this way since I started with film 40 years ago, I believe it is the “best” way to work even if others don’t, and I believe in my elitist heart of hearts that any software designer who doesn’t allow for this way of working doesn’t understand editing.
“Can’t argue with that!
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Chris Kenny] “I’m aware of these methods, but they still don’t really match the expected behavior (since they always generate new media and might in some instances cause transcoding)”.
You are aware that you can drag and drop into Avid yet you choose to come up with the most bizarre method of media ingest into Avid imaginable. Not really an apples to apples comparison.
[Chris Kenny] “FCP X manages these problems in significantly more comprehensible way with its ability to automatically generate optimized and proxy versions of imported clips.”
Doesn’t that put the user in the same position as Avid w/regards to new media generation? Albiet X’s way of working with natively media, doing the transcoding in the background then invisibly relinking to the new media when it’s ready is much cooler than sitting and watching Avid’s import bar. X also provides a unified approach than Avid as working with AMA requires a different workflow than working natively inside Avid.
Overall I’m okay with Avid’s fundamental approach to asset handling material because even though it can be restrictive at times the pro’s outweigh the con’s (at least in my experience). Some aspects, like AMA, need improvement but what software doesn’t? On a related note, one of the things I most loved about FCP Legend was it’s flexibility. The downside to that is that the program would readily give you enough rope to hang yourself and happily watch as you did it. It might sound odd that I like some of the restrictive parts of Avid and at the same time like the lack of restriction in FCP7 but some situations benefit from rigidity and some situations do not. Horses for courses as they say.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If you have a lone audio clip that you need your video back for, you match frame back and hit option-r. This will replace a video clip with your audio lickety split.”
But normally I’ll have a bunch of video clips over one audio clip and often I’m just trying to replace one of those cuts with the video. If I match back I’m getting the video for the whole audio – either I have to cut the audio just where I want the video to match back, or drop the video on a higher track (in legacy terms) and then trim the in and out. both of these cases are a lot more time consuming than just hitting re-sync. I do this kind of replacement constantly, so a couple of xtra steps on each instance adds up.
By the way, I’m not busting your chops here, I do appreciate your taking the time to explain how you are working with X.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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