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Risk and failure
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[Andrew Stone] “I have spelled this out at least once a day for the past week or so and so have many of the long time pros”
Andrew,
You cannot win. Chris Kenny will simply wear you down.
As you already seem to have figured out, he refuses to acknowledge or respond to your salient points no matter how many times you spell them out. And, he is relentless in his use of circular reasoning and non sequiturs, which makes any discussion futile.
If you want to be ignored get yourself a cat.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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not bad chris, you did pretty well there considering.
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I still fantasise that there will be some formal japanese surrender of his position where he just like hands over his flag and breaks his mouse over his knee.
I have gone way too far down the rabbit hole here myself.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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>That, essentially, the vast majority of people will be evaluating FCP X one year from today in terms of the capability of the product, not the mess Apple made of its introduction, or what that might imply if the product undergoes another major transition in another decade.
Then that is when they should have released FCPX, when it is completely ready. They threw something together trying to keep up with the marketplace, but have too many irons in the fire and at this point in the competition needed to be very different.
Right now FCPX one is a no brainer, someday it may be a pro editing platform again.
Jerry Vogt
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[Chris Kenny] “…make what turn out to be hilariously inaccurate predictions about Apple’s future behavior on that basis.”
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Like the fact that the bulk educational deal (hardware + software) that was there on Monday would be there on Tuesday…[Chris Kenny] “…It’s an old, tired game.”
Good game! Good game!
(British TV gameshow presenter’s catchphrase).Apple have (unilaterally) decided that educational establishments and professional post businesses don’t need any incentive to get this software to fly out of the App Store.
Like iPhone apps, the kids will download (= pay for) it anyway, so there’s no need for ANY long term formal incentives or committments.
Does that seem a good business plan for a college or business – writing that sort of partner in?Fine for the kids though…
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[Jerry Vogt] “Then that is when they should have released FCPX, when it is completely ready.”
People keep saying this, but a huge fraction even of FCP’s existing user base (to say nothing of the new users Apple might pull in with the lower price point and new interface) simply does not require the features everyone here has spent the last ten days obsessing over. The vast majority of projects created day in and day out in FCP will never need to be laid out to HDCAM with specific track assignments, never be color graded in an external grading application, never have their audio exported to Pro Tools.
The truth is, the set of features we’ve been calling ‘pro features’ in this forum are really more like “post house and broadcast features”. An initial release without these features was not targeted at “consumers” (who do not buy $300 video editing software), but at the (probably) nine in ten existing Final Cut users who don’t work at a broadcaster or a post house. I’m not entirely sure why so many people consider it so horrible that Apple released the software for these users while continuing to add additional features for the high-end market.
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[Paul Dickin] “Apple have (unilaterally) decided that educational establishments and professional post businesses don’t need any incentive to get this software to fly out of the App Store.
Like iPhone apps, the kids will download (= pay for) it anyway, so there’s no need for ANY long term formal incentives or committments.
Does that seem a good business plan for a college or business – writing that sort of partner in?”It’s kind of silly to make long-term projections about FCP X’s success or failure on the basis of what are pretty clearly short-term issues arising from the fact that Apple is still working through the issues associated with releasing serious software through the App Store.
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I have a lump in my throat from watching your trailer. Well done.
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Hey Chris, what is it you have to say to the educator who now has to change an entire curriculum in a month for fall semester? Or the facilities manager in mid-tranistion to FCP products? Or the consultant for large scale FCP facility implementation who is a day is having to find another job?
I guess you’re message is… “It’ll be great one day, don’t know when, but just hang in there!” That’s not going to pay the bills.
In the meantime, all these long time supporters are now scrambling, trying to figure how they are going to make a living in a very tough world. Guess they just need to get out of the way of the new folks who’ll be using this “amazing” product, eh? This little culture that has been created with these Apple products just gave the boot to the people that got them where they are. It’s about more than features, buddy.
Marvin Holdman
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[Marvin Holdman] “Hey Chris, what is it you have to say to the educator who now has to change an entire curriculum in a month for fall semester? Or the facilities manager in mid-tranistion to FCP products? Or the consultant for large scale FCP facility implementation who is a day is having to find another job? “
That it’s unfortunate that Apple has temporarily placed a small number of people in awkward situation, but that it’s unlikely to have the sort of wide impact on the future of the NLE market that people keep claiming it will.
[Marvin Holdman] “In the meantime, all these long time supporters are now scrambling, trying to figure how they are going to make a living in a very tough world.”
Yeah, I know, it’s really been a problem for us that Apple remotely disabled everyone’s copy of FCP 7.
Oh, wait. They didn’t. People are just acting like they did.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read our blog.
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