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Resolve XII…
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[Bill Davis] “Really? I never met anyone that can go significantly FASTER on a bike with training wheels…
Somebody should tell all those guys on the Tour de France.
This could be transformative!”Well, that’s your experience. Mine is different. Now FCP 7 doesn’t handle
some of the newer codecs or use all the available RAM so of course it is slower.
But that has nothing to do with tracks. A track based ‘modern’ editor ( being
that it handles newer codecs and uses available RAM and GPU) is a different story.
So, for example, despite spending the last two years learning to use FCP X, I still go
significantly FASTER in CS6. Yup, you read that right. Faster on the track based editor.
Maybe, just maybe….both track and trackless NLE’s are bikes, neither have training
wheels, and the speed they go depends very much on their ‘riders’. That’s something
you could tell all those guys on the Tour de France. And you’d get a big fat ‘DUH’ from
them. 🙂Gabe Strong
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[David Mathis] “I do not see a trackless timeline as a bike with training wheels nor do I see a timeline with tracks has training wheels either. Going back to tracks will not require my brain going crazy. Sure there will be a couple of extra steps but not that complicated. I actually like the style that X uses, gets out of your way allowing for more efficient editing with less time concetrating on track assignments. Not saying tracks are bad, just a different approach. Just my two cents, carry on!
“I’d be a lot happier with FCP X if they’d let me connect ‘secondary storylines’ to other ‘secondary storylines’
instead of forcing me to connect to the primary storyline every time! Well, if I’m getting into feature
requests, I want ‘send to Motion’ back as well. Those two features sure would make me a lot happier!Gabe Strong
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Late 2012 iMac 27″ i7 3.4ghz, completely maxed with 2gig GPU, 32gigs ram, Pegasus raid, BMD Monitoring, 1TB fusion. Latest OS and FCP. Yep. It eats up RAM. Computer launches with 26-28gugs free. After launching X it quickly goes to 18-20free then after working in a large project with templates and compounds the ram drops to 4-8gigs free. Even less over time. Apple has changed the way the system reports free RAM. I used to see it get into the hundreds of megs.
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[Charlie Austin] “Oh FFS, can I kill this thread now? Sorry I brought it up.”
Said everyone who has started a thread at least once. 😉
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Dude, comprehension 101.
My analogy was addressing the topic of the DIFFICULTY of adaption. It was NOT suggesting that tracks are EQUAL to training wheels.
Stay focused on what people are actually saying, not what you wrongly INTERPRET them to be saying.
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Speaking of comprehension……
I was not addressing your ‘original’ comment about training wheels.
I was addressing the comment you made ‘after’ that
where you implied that FCP X was somehow ‘faster’
than a track based editor.Gabe Strong
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I think you need to re-read your own posts – your condescension and kindergarten level fanboyism was plain as day and your training wheel analogy is just ignorant. Why any FCPX fanboy such you and Charlie would feel so threatened is just silly. We’re not talking about some questionable start-up, we’re talking about a product with a legacy that is second to none and has been a top of choice of post pro’s since the time of the first Macintosh 1984 commercial! People are going to use it, deal with it.
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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[Lance Bachelder] “I think you need to re-read your own posts – your condescension and kindergarten level fanboyism was plain as day and your training wheel analogy is just ignorant. Why any FCPX fanboy such you and Charlie would feel so threatened is just silly. We’re not talking about some questionable start-up, we’re talking about a product with a legacy that is second to none and has been a top of choice of post pro’s since the time of the first Macintosh 1984 commercial! People are going to use it, deal with it.”
Happy to see you making it about the arguments instead of about the personalities, Lance. (snort)
“talking about a product with a legacy that is second to none???” Huh, X? Or are you STILL trying to litigate some hurt about the EOL of Legacy? If so, good god man, it’s going on 5 years. Move on. Please.
The problem is that I’ve been pushing back against indefensible inacuracies spread about FCP X for four years now – including the periods where YOU trashed it – left it – returned to it – and have relentlessly tried to sit on both sides of the debate fence.
And I have no problem with that.
Clearly, you struggle to figure out whether it makes sense for you or not.
That’s OK.
But what’s NOT OK is coming back not to address the factual underpinnings of the software, but to attach the personalities of the people making the arguments.
You may not understand that you’re doing that, but you are. Please stop.
Factually, most of the X “haters” have been proved significantly shortsighted if not directly WRONG. They kept arguing about incidentals rather than opening their minds to all the useful and extremely powerful thinking that went into it that was there FROM VERSION 1.
As to kindergarten level fanboyism – yep. I’m a kindergarten level fan of lots of stuff. Science, digital math, the healthy benefits of clean water – and YEP, the design ideas behind FCP X. The difference is that I have 40 years of direct producing, directing and shooting and editing experience in the trenches that support said fanboyism. I’ve DONE the work at a professional level. Heck, I’ve fed my family for those same 30 yeas as a working video producer and editor – just like you, probably.
Which means that while we have different views – NEITHER of them are de-facto wrong.
But YOU use the fanboy pejorative, I don’t. Which in my personal experience is a SURE sign of a piss-poor argument.
My debate point here was that THE LEARNING CURVE OF X was LIKE riding a bike, there is a reset necessary to ones sense of balance in order to succeed. That was TRUE with X on day one. And I believe it to be very much as true today.
Theres’s no way you’ll convince me to stop thinking that. So deal with it.
Hopefully by reining in your personal animosity and getting back to the FACTS.
That way maybe people reading this can learn something beyond that this week, for some reason, you’re a bit pissy about pushback.
Hope you feel better soon.
Take care.
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[Lance Bachelder] “Why any FCPX fanboy such you and Charlie would feel so threatened is just silly.”
All due respect Lance, leave me outta this. My “cancel the the thread” comment wasn’t because I feel threatened.
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[Bret Williams] “Late 2012 iMac 27” i7 3.4ghz, completely maxed with 2gig GPU, 32gigs ram, Pegasus raid, BMD Monitoring, 1TB fusion. Latest OS and FCP. “
Same exact setup here. I actually see a similar RAM gobbling issue with Pr 2015, but it’s the cached files that run away on that, and it doesn’t appear to affect performance. As I said, it’s really not bad with X either, so maybe it is the Motion stuff, or project length?
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