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Resolve for Mac feedback from former Apple Color users?
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I too love my daVinci, and I second all the positive feedback read here. Yes the speed is amazing, yes it’s much more powerful.
But it’s not a question of “why I wouldn’t go back”, it’s a question of “why I still need Color to be sitting around”.
– DaVinci clips the super-whites of quicktime files. Only solution I found in those cases is to do a full to legal using Color
– DaVinci is still at an early stage of development, and there are lots of bugs. Yes there are lots of bugs in Color, but those are not new to me 😉
– DaVinci implementation of the wave is very poor as compared to Color. Hope this will change soon, I have the feeling to be using DaVinci LE
– DaVinci don’t have a colorFX room
– conform via EDL is more awkward than via XML
All in all, I would keep my Color for projects for which I have less than half a day. You can get real time in Color too when not using the video output, and contrarily to popular belief, you can get accurate colors on your second DVI monitor, using color profiles (more about about that in the Color forum, when I get the time).
When I get the time, I will also post a full list of bugs I found. I wish there was a DaVinci Bug Database so as to know whether or not it’s worth documenting a bug.
Michael Cinquin
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There are still little things though, I really miss. Like the secondaries curves tools. And sat controls for highlights. Its like getting a ferrari, and then missing the extra cupholders your toyota had.
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That’s a really nice analogy. Although it sounds like some of the little features we’re missing are enabled through the resolve panels. So I guess you could say we got the super economy version of a ferrari that’s missing cupholders.
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[Michael Cinquin] “- DaVinci clips the super-whites of quicktime files. Only solution I found in those cases is to do a full to legal using Color”
in the config tab did you choose to use Full Range instead of scaled video for monitoring and output to tape?
Robbie Carman
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I think this was raised in another thread and a fix should be out soon :
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/1702
-chrispy
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[Robbie Carman] “in the config tab did you choose to use Full Range instead of scaled video for monitoring and output to tape?”
From my tests, this setting only change the monitoring, not the fact that the super-whites are clipped at input.
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I hired one of the factory Davinci guys to come in and train me before the software released. I loved it right away. I date back to the first days of Final Touch before it became Color and thought I would never leave Color but I have. Davinci Resolve is where it’s at.
I’m repeating but tracker is amazing. Did a show where eyeballs were dark because of lighting issues and tracked eyes so easy. One node for each eye, each shot. Crazy but it worked. Nodes are great. Add as many as you want for each correction, different kinds, serial, parallel, layer nodes, etc.
I moved my Cooper controls over to a shelf where I could jump back in if I couldn’t figure something out in Davinci. Guess what, haven’t fired up Color since I installed Davinci.
I work mostly with Red for television series and commercials and quarter rez looks great, plays real time with lots of nodes and sound on playback. Directors and DP’s want scenes played back with sound. Sound is a big element of every production and affects how you feel about a scene. Gotta have sound.
Exporting and EDL with Red material is a bit tricky but once you get onto it it works fine. We’re doing series work with Red edl exports. Unfortunately Davinci doesn’t accept XML exports but does accept EDL or AAF. We tried using Automatic Duck AAF export for FCP but this didn’t seem to work. Curious how others have done it.
The qualifier actually works on Red files. In Color in the secondaries the keyer looks at the files before the Red tab where they are grey and washed out. I’ve talked to the Color engineers but as we know Apple’s busy building mobile devices so not doing any important updates to other products. Just try qualifying green grass from a R3D file in Color. Doesn’t work very well. Pretty well have to do a pre-render to QT first.
The one thing I do miss from Color is the saturation and hue curves. This is something I used a great deal in Color and is unique to Color. I hope some day this sort of feature shows up in Davinci.
The little Wave controller looks like a toy but honestly its not a bad controller. Okay, I’ve said enough.
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Here is nice video where Dan shows some aspects of Resolve in action.
There you can see what it means to work FAST.https://www.macvideo.tv/editing/features/index.cfm?articleId=3248808
One video is worth more than thousand words.
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Margus
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this whole sound argument is a lot of b.s. years ago we stopped syncing sound in the telecine suite because it just took too damn long if there was no smart slate or not enough pre-roll on the audio or no slates at all…it was way quicker to just concentrate on the color and give the sound over to audio department where they would just sync up the rushes…way cheaper and you can get more work through the doors of the telecine suite. last time i even heard sound in a grading session was 10 years ago when we used to do tape to tape grades from digi-beta! even then we would alwyas turn it down…nowadays the sound is still being mixed while you are doing the grade so i dont understand this need to have sound in the grading suite……why not put grading in the audio suite as well? besides its much more fun to pop on your favorite tunes or even the radio while you work without having to hear some rough half mixed bad audio track over and over….that would drive me nuts…i remember once a client asked me if he could hear the audio from his show while we we’re grading…..i told him the audio suite was down the hall…..
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As I have said, and I’ve seen other mention it too: sound is a great tool and can be switched on or off any time for you to listen to the latest hits on your local radio.
Why is it a great to have sound? It helps you understand the scene and the mood. I’ve never graded anything that had a final master of the sound, nor do I think I’ll ever be in that position. But the recorded sound on set or even temporary ADR is really helpful. Sometimes even having temporary music sets the mood and aids in developing the look.
It’s not like DaVinci use the audio for each source clip. Nope. You’ll have to export the sound for the entire sequence you’re grading. Takes no time to do it.. 🙂 And synching? No need to really. It just WORKS!
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