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Resolve 16 vs FCPX
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[Neil Sadwelkar] “Another aspect is that other NLEs are editing systems,…. …….humans proficient in colour correction, compositing, or sound design, exclusively work within the respective pages (only) within Resolve, and the editor holds it all together by working in the Edit page and media pool. Expecting these 4 to be the same human is unrealistic, and certainly not commonplace.”
One thing to point out here, is that Resolve has a very definite left to right workflow through the pages. For example, it doesn’t work well to add effects in the Fusion page and have those appear back in the Edit page. Some effects show up, some don’t. You have to do a mix down or compound/nest the clip (whatever Resolve calls it). That’s contrary to a true all-in-one workflow philosophy. The design is really that you lock the edit, then do color and effects, and then finally mix.
That’s as opposed to Adobe where I can send a clip off to AE with Dynamic Link/render-and-replace and have an AE designer do the embellishment/compositing. But only if I want it linked in the same timeline, which is optional.
Remember, too, that neither Fusion nor Fairlight ever garnered large market share and historically more node-based compositors have hit the market and failed compared with fewer, but more successful, layer/track-based compositors.
So I think Resolve – the idea – is more attractive than the reality.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Mark Raudonis] “What keeps large post facilities from jumping is NOT so much inertia, but what I call the “10 X Rule”. In order to overcome inertia, the proposed change has to be at least ten times better than the status quo.”
Agreed. And not just large post facilities, but I think it also applies to anyone that has aa vested interest (i.e. spent years learning) in a certain workflow. The competition can’t be ‘just as good’ or ‘a little better’ because we all know that switching will fix some problems, but also create new ones that your old workflow didn’t suffer from. No one wants to take the time/effort switch when it’s just going to be a net gain of near zero. I might as well stick with the devils I know at that point as opposed to killing them only to introduce an equal amount of new devils.
No to belabor a point, but thats why Apple’s killing of FCP Legend and launching of X was such a huge deal. Apple removed that inertial barrier by forcing people to choose. Legend users had to make a conscious choice to move to another NLE. Apple created a very rare situation and that’s why it’s still so talked about.
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[Michael Gissing] “I’m not sure why you might assume development at Blackmagic will slow down soon and updates get less in the future”
Isn’t that an inevitability as all software titles mature?
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This could help show how the cut page works.
Ric Marty
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[Ricardo Marty] “This could help show how the cut page works.
“Thanks for that.
Now does anyone know what that display is behind him?
Or is that a large LCD?
Im on the hunt due to aging Apple 30s. -
They are really trying their best to copy X, and I don’t blame them for that. In order to do a lot of adjustments looks like you have to jump back to the edit page. I wouldn’t want to do that myself. Jumping back and fourth. I would rather just stick with the X timeline and do everything I need all in the same page.
It’s funny how when X made that timeline it was seen as dumb to many, and now that R 16 is trying to do it it’s fine : )
It’s a nice program but as some have pointed out, most folks are pretty happy with their current NLE and don’t have a big enough reason to learn something else.
So happy in fact, that this little “debate” page has died down. Not much really to debate anymore, as many have moved on from this forum.
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One glaring issue in the current Beta version of R16 is that you cannot trim audio separately from the picture in the Cut page. Like FCPX, clips are combined a/v clips. Although a clip goes to V2, it functions a bit like a connected clip in FCPX. Therefore, the Cut page has no separate audio tracks, only video (actual a/v) tracks.
A clip edited to V2 has source audio married to it. Clips on any track cannot be expanded and the audio trimmed independently, like you can in FCPX. You have to switch to the Edit page for that type of editing.
In this current form, it seems like the Cut page is largely a place to build rough cuts before going to the Edit page, or maybe very simple YouTube or news stories. Maybe that will be fixed before R16 finally hits the release version.
BTW – it’s also interesting that between NAB and now, the edit keyboard price has changed from $995 to $1,025.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Also, titles can only be placed and nothing more. I guess these are the result of beta 01. Should be fixed by the time its finalized.
Ric Marty
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Here’s the full BMD tech overview of NAB products by Grant Petty. Resolve 16 starts at around 1 hr 14 min.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Resolve 15 would have been my holy grail when I was using FCP 7, and today’s Premiere would have been what I would have expected from the next version or two of FCP at that time. I could imagine looking longingly at Resolve 15 if I was using Premiere currently.
But I use FCP 10 primarily. I find it a joy to use compared to Premiere and much faster for the sorts of corporate/documentary work that I do.
I’m using some of my spare time to gradually learn Resolve. But the edting side feels like Premiere, and to be honest, FCP 10’s color correction tools, along with the built-in audio effects and iZotope’s RX and Ozone plugins get me most of the way there such that it is rarely necessary for me to go outside of FCP 10 anymore.
I’m curious about Fusion too, but I have used After Effects since 1995 and its hard to start something like Fusion when you are so comfortable with another.
That said, it is really easy to get FCP 10 timeline’s into Resolve, and I would probably end up using its color tools sometimes, BUT, the import process strips out all audio levels, fades, and keyframes. And that is essentially makes Resolve DOA for me for many projects. I know I can round trip but…
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