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Rendering settings for internet video.
Hello there.
I’ve been messing around with Sony movie studio platinum 12 and I’ve been searching around here for advice for video encoding ,specifically internet video in particular Youtube . I like to know if the following points are correct.
– Sony AVC is generally best for putting out 720P Footage. At 3000kbps it is every space and time efficient. If you need to add effects and overlays, things will come out fine almost every time.
– .wmv format can be used, the quality won’t be as good as Sony AVC but it is faster and the file sizes are smaller. However things like overlays and more advanced stuff tend have the chance to mess up. As long as the video is generally from one source it should be fine.
– Mainconcept AVC is supposed to be better than Sony AVC for internet video because of it’s progressive download feature and variable bit rate, however it is really pixleated unless you double pass and apply the deblocking filter. File sizes and encoding time is long due to the need for a second pass and filtering. I don’t know of any pros to this setting.
– .AVI is if all else fails, it’ll work but it’s average on all fronts.
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[Danny Gao] “I’ve been messing around with Sony movie studio platinum 12 and I’ve been searching around here for advice for video encoding ,specifically internet video in particular Youtube . I like to know if the following points are correct.”
It’s great that you searched around first but unfortunately, Sony made some big changes between Movie Studio 11 & 12 and Vegas Pro 10 & 11 with regard to rendering. So you may have ready something that was true for a particular version of Movie Studio but not necessarily YOUR version of Movie Studio. Let me try and answer your questions:
[Danny Gao] “- Sony AVC is generally best for putting out 720P Footage. At 3000kbps it is every space and time efficient. If you need to add effects and overlays, things will come out fine almost every time.”
That is true for Movie Studio 11 and earlier. Starting with Movie Studio 12, MainConcept AVC is the preferred encoder for Internet video. All of the “Internet” templates in Movie Studio 12 have been moved from Sony AVC to MainConcept AVC. Sony AVC is primarily used for AVCHD and Blu-ray rendering now.
[Danny Gao] “- .wmv format can be used, the quality won’t be as good as Sony AVC but it is faster and the file sizes are smaller. However things like overlays and more advanced stuff tend have the chance to mess up. As long as the video is generally from one source it should be fine.”
WMV never renders faster, uses huge amounts of memory, and has always been problematic in Vegas Pro and Movie Studio. Just avoid it.
[Danny Gao] “- Mainconcept AVC is supposed to be better than Sony AVC for internet video because of it’s progressive download feature and variable bit rate, however it is really pixleated unless you double pass and apply the deblocking filter. File sizes and encoding time is long due to the need for a second pass and filtering. I don’t know of any pros to this setting.”
This is no longer true. MainConcept AVC is now the preferred encoder for Internet video and if you have a supported GPU it renders about 3x faster than the Sony AVC encoder can with the same GPU and the quality is spectacular. Again this is true for Movie Studio 12.0 and Vegas Pro 11.0 and greater.
[Danny Gao] “- .AVI is if all else fails, it’ll work but it’s average on all fronts.”
AVI is just a file container not a video format like Sony AVC and MainConcepot AVC which are both AVC/H.264 MPEG4 format. Uncompressed AVI is the highest quality possible. Using various codecs you can trade off compression for quality. It all depends on what codec you use to encode the video that you place in the AVI file.
I deliver all of my videos to YouTube using MainConcept AVC with the Internet HD 720p template and they look great. Here is an example using that template (watch on YouTube in HD):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Ekb48h_ow
~jr
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John,
Would you use the same for uploading to Facebook and other social media sites? Or how bout for a 1 minute or so video you’d like to email someone?
Thanks, Mac
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[Mac McGinnis] “Would you use the same for uploading to Facebook and other social media sites?”
Yes, the Internet is the Internet. It doesn’t matter what site is hosting the video.
[Mac McGinnis] “Or how bout for a 1 minute or so video you’d like to email someone?”
You really shouldn’t “email” a video. Most email accounts are restricted to 10MB and you’d be hard pressed to get a video that small with any quality, and even if you did, your friend would be quite mad if you max out their inbox and other emails start being rejected. You should always email a “link” to a video. Get a Dropbox account, place your video in Dropbox and mail a private (or public) link to whoever you want.
If you don’t have a Dropbox account and want to join (it’s free) you and I can get an additional 500MB of space by using this referral link:
I use Dropbox almost every day to share folders on my PC and MacBook Pro, iPad, and iPhone with colleagues I am collaborating with. It’s an awesome free sharing service.
~jr
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John I have a similar question, but by using the Search function, this is the closest topic I could get to my question. I’d like to find a render setting that fills the screen, when viewed through Windows Media Player or any smart phone. I’m happy with the quality, just not the screen size. Do you have any recommendations? You can see from the two screenshots what I’m trying to achieve and see what current render settings I’m using. I appreciate any and all advice offered.
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Is no one going to chime in on this one, and offer some advice?
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Hello again Rob!
Is adjusting the Pan/Crop menu out of the question? I see that the clips you are using are in 4:3, and while the “stretch videos to fill output frame size” helps in some cases, it hasn’t been a reliable solution in my experience.
There is a “stretch to fill” setting within the Pan/Crop tool as well, or you can manually zoom in and copy the keyframe to every other clip. Alternatively, you can fill the screen using the “Track motion” feature.
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Some of the things you mention are confusing to me. What makes you think I’m 4:3? I set all my clips to 16:9 in pan crop, on every clip, and set “stretch to fill” in my Render Settings. So what is it I’m missing?
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Well, I looked at your screenshot, and on the top left side of the screen, the clip looked like it was 4:3. And I saw you had that on the timeline as well. I might’ve seen it wrong. Are you able to provide with a full screenshot of the timeline and the preview so I can make sure?
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Yes, I can do that. But I can assure you I’m in 16:9, my Camcorder only records in that mode. And I set all my Clips to 16:9 in Pan/Crop. As you can see by my Render Settings I also have checked off Stretch to fill. The screenshot you may be referring to, was taken down by Mods. Why, I have no idea, she was fully clothed. Anyways, that screenshot illustrated my point, that when the video is played back, either on a Smartphone or Windows Media Player, is does not fill the screen entirely. Not the tops, the bottoms or the sides. There must be a Render Setting that fills all those black spaces, that is not a huge file? In other words compatible with Internet downloads, yet still of a good qualtiy. I’m off to make your screenshot, this time it won’t be of the talent.
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Here are the screenshots you requested. Two of them, are how it looks in Vegas, and one of them shows how it looks on Smartphones and Windows Media Player. My goal is NO black areas around the video……in other words full screen, in the Players that the Internet uses to play them. I’m sure I’m just using the wrong Render Settings.
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