render for YouTube

[Randall Raymond]

[Aharon Rabinowitz] “[Raymond Motion Pictures] “320×240 – 30fps – start with 400bps – the flv file should then be served up as is.”

Where did you hear this? 400Bps is Extremely low. maybe you mean Kbps?”

Yes. If they are using Flash 7 – it looks to me to be encoded at about 200kbps. In your testing, did you ever try an extremely high rate Flash 7 encode at, say, 1500kbps for upload?

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

[Raymond Motion Pictures] “In your testing, did you ever try an extremely high rate Flash 7 encode at, say, 1500kbps for upload?”

yes, and you can see those here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PrUftJgPcUo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9YJZ1tYUytY

https://youtube.com/watch?v=txoSMiduObY

However, shortly after doing these tests, YouTube stopped allowing users to upload FLV’s without their re-encoding it. It is not possible. No matter what you upload, they re-encode it.

Aharon Rabinowitz
Email: arabinowitz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
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[Randall Raymond]

[Aharon Rabinowitz] “However, shortly after doing these tests, YouTube stopped allowing users to upload FLV’s without their re-encoding it. It is not possible. No matter what you upload, they re-encode it.”

That’s unfortunate and really stupid of them. YouTube gives me a headache after watching a few in a row. Obviously, bandwidth usage has become a problem for them.

[Christopher Smith]

I just uploaded to You Tube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jJ95QbPaHE) video shot with XH-A1 at HD combined with DV. Compiled using Vegas 8 – 640 x 480 (as per new You Tube specs) – .mov – using “Good” setting – mono (as per You Tube specs). It was a little over 5 minutes and came in at 93Mb (must be under 10 minutes and 100Mb per You Tube). You can look at my footage and judge by that if it is acceptable. Hope this helps.

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[John Magee]

Thanks for that,
the Tori Amos video looks good
Can you tell me what settings you used in the .mov render? I see there are a huge number of options.

[Christopher Smith]

Thanks for the compliment John. I used .mov at 640×480 at “good” setting. My sound was at mono and the video was set to MPEG-4. If you go to “My account” you can click on a help area and they have the suggested settings for uploads. They use to be at 320 x 240 but for some reason changed to the 640 x 480. I think if I had size problems that is the first setting I would change. I was too large using the “best” setting but going to “good” fixed the problem. Hope that helps.

[John Magee]

Thanks Christopher,
when I go to the “render as” (Vpro8)I see quicktime(.mov). I then have choice of templates – uncompressed, 3mbs, etc. After picking one of those there are more format questions – target bit rates, mp4 or Sorenson or…and then audio – more formats there – the default one is one that sounds really bad – are we looking at the same thing here?
John

[Christopher Smith]

John,
After you choose the .mov format, click on the “custom” button on the right and make the further choices from there. Once you choose the ones I mentioned earlier you can name the template yourself as “You tube” and save it. The next time you go in those custom settings will be available as a template. Hope this helped.

Chris