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  • Andy Field

    September 19, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Is there a render manager similar to FCP 7 — where you can – from within FCPX – just delete selected – or all render files and if so where is it hiding?

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

  • Nick Toth

    September 19, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    File>Delete Project Render Files is your friend. Similar to Render Manager in previous versions.

    NT

  • Steve Connor

    September 19, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Simple housekeeping required.

    Go to Project library window, select your project then File Menu, “delete project render files”

    Everything in the project is NOT transcoded to ProRes, it only transcodes if you select “optimized media” and even then it only transcodes some footage. For example it leaves XDCam material native until you place any effects on the clips.

    “My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”

  • James Poll

    September 20, 2011 at 2:30 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “No, it leaves it there and makes a new one. This is really easy to track and watch while you do it.”

    Actually, FCP 7 will delete and clean-up unused render files, but it only appears to do so when you close a project. This is pretty easy to verify, just drop a clip onto a timeline and add a colour correction. Render it out. Add another effect, render it out. Add a third effect and render it out. In your render cache you’ll find the 3 render files, but once you close the project, render files 1 and 2 will disappear, leaving only the most current one remaining.

    This actually caused me some trouble in the past, as I would sometimes “borrow” timelines from one show to make another (it was a simple interview show, with a common format of interviewee/movie clip/interviewee/movie clip/etc. I would replace the clips and interviews, but keep the opening and closing as it was common to all shows. I was always a bit annoyed to find that when I went back to the original project, all my colour-corrected clips were now unrendered, because FCP had done a “render clean-up” in the new project, but in so doing wiped out the render files from the old one. The way to work around this was to copy the *contents* of the timeline, and not the actual timeline itself. I was a bit mystified at first, because although I had copied the sequence from one project to another, I had saved the new project with a different name which I thought would be sufficient to “break/isolate” the link, but no go… FCP would trace back to the original workspace and delete the render files there.

  • Marvin Holdman

    September 20, 2011 at 2:34 am

    Um, technically speaking it does NOT leave XDCAM footage native. You are working with re-wrapped files which are a second set created when you bring them in. Wish that it did, it would half your data footprint. It is true to say that it leaves your re-wrapped XDCAM files native… until you apply effects.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 20, 2011 at 2:45 am

    I’ve never seen this before, but that’s OK.

    It still leaves behind old and unused render files as does fcpx. It is mostly the users duty to trash them.

  • Don Smith

    February 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    This thread approaches my problem but not quite so I hope the group won’t mind if I take it one step further…

    I was editing on a video drive (not the boot drive) and ran out of disk space. I’ve moved the project and the event to a new drive but the project still insists on rendering to the previous (full) drive and I can find NOTHING that tells me how to force it to render to the new drive. Anyone?

    NewsVideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 20, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    [Don Smith] “Anyone?”

    Eject the full drive.

  • Don Smith

    February 20, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    RE: “Eject the full drive.”

    We’re thinking alike. I did just that right after posting my question and when I did, the projects opened quickly and saved just fine and it allowed me to see the problem; there was missing media in three of the seven or eight projects that needed re-linking.

    Apparently the media on the full drive was directing the Save functions to the full drive. That’s my guess based on my observation.

    When attempting to re-link to from the old Event to like-media in the new Event, the new media was a corrupted copy. How, I can’t explain. It was a hassle but once I either re-linked to good media on the new drive or moved the Project to inactive status, I could remount the full drive and edit away on the new drive.

    I did notice that a Project with a lot of missing media was not listed by Event X because it somehow got nested inside another project, yet FCPX still recognized it as its own Project. Once I de-nested the Project then Event X could properly see it and put it away and it no longer appeared in FCPX to mess things up.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I’m here to verify that you are right.

    Don Smith

    NewsVideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 20, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    [Don Smith] “Apparently the media on the full drive was directing the Save functions to the full drive. That’s my guess based on my observation.”

    You have to move the Events/Projects out of the Final Cut Events/Projects folder on the full drive (with FCPX closed/quit). Otherwise, FCPX is trying to use two of the exact same projects/events and it can get confused.

    [Don Smith] “I did notice that a Project with a lot of missing media was not listed by Event X because it somehow got nested inside another project, yet FCPX still recognized it as its own Project. Once I de-nested the Project then Event X could properly see it and put it away and it no longer appeared in FCPX to mess things up.”

    Any folder structure that is in your Project Library should mirror what’s on your hard drive. Was that not the case?

    Jeremy

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