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RED 8k camera, a sign of things to come from apple?
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[Walter Soyka] “I’m also a fan of HFR, no matter how many people hated The Hobbit. It’s very important for immersion.”
The funny thing about that to me, is that to my eye it creates just the opposite effect. I hate everything about HFR for exactly the immersive reason because I can’t immerse myself into a film shot with HFR. The technical aspects of that format are constantly taking me out of the viewing experience and calling attention to my eye.
But HFR obviously affects everyone differently.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[greg janza] “I hate everything about HFR for exactly the immersive reason because I can’t immerse myself into a film shot with HFR. The technical aspects of that format are constantly taking me out of the viewing experience and calling attention to my eye. But HFR obviously affects everyone differently.”
My use case is mixing media with real world; cinema is entirely different and I understand why so many reject HFR.
Walter Soyka
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[Tom Sefton] “The new arri 65 is stunning. The epic monstro is beautiful. Change is good! It keeps everyone busy!”
OTOH – Disney EPCOT’s IllumiNations show Earth Globe video – approx 360 x 128 pixels. Seen by maybe something like 180 million guests (conservative estimate). And yes, I wish I’d had more display resolution to play with! ☺
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IllumiNations:_Reflections_of_Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDv20DUxnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maWd7rBonn0
Very hard to capture well on video, BTW. The closest anyone actually is to the globe is 500 ft. So it looks better to the eye in person.
– Oliver
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[Andrew Kimery] “1. Supernatural isn’t just for girls, Bill. ???? “
Didn’t mean to diss Supernatural it at all. I spent hours surrounded by it’s dedicated fans – and I have to say I really enjoyed the time spent with them. ComiCon tends to be it’s own “tribal” thing – and at least around us, the Supernatural tribe was significantly female and mostly women under 25 who had started with the show when they were younger – but there were CERTAINLY older women and plenty of men present who are big fans of the show as well.
That said, when the two young male stars hit the stage – the it felt a bit like the Beatles in 1963 in the Ed Sulivan Theater. They definitely have a LOYAL fan base.
And Warner Brothers did them all proud with a MASSIVE presentation.
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[Bill Davis] “That said, when the two young male stars hit the stage – the it felt a bit like the Beatles in 1963 in the Ed Sulivan Theater.”
That I could totally see happening. From what I’ve heard the show is so popular in Germany that even the actors with smaller, recurring roles get mobbed at public appearances too.
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[greg janza] “I hate everything about HFR for exactly the immersive reason because I can’t immerse myself into a film shot with HFR. “
Do you have the same experience with, say, watching a documentary that’s HFR or playing video games* (which typically aim for at least 60fps)? I think when we (myself included) sit down to watch a movie we are subconsciously expecting a certain aesthetic based on prior experience if parts of that aesthetic are missing then it doesn’t ‘feel’ like a movie to us. For non-narrative, live action applications I don’t HFR stirs the same negative reaction.
*Yes, I know animation/rendered GFX have a separate set of motion issues compared to filming live action.
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Andrew, I agree that it’s probably a result of subconsciously clashing with a preconceived idea of what a film should look like.
Everyone is different in their reactions but for me I have a negative reaction to any visuals that are shot like “reality.” I personally hate the look of programming that’s shot at the frame rates 29.97 or 59.94. My mind processes that look as flat and boring.
Most of the projects I work on are shot 23.976 and to my eye that’s the ideal visual aesthetic.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[Tom Sefton] “The new arri 65 is stunning. The epic monstro is beautiful. Change is good! It keeps everyone busy!”
I think the whole point of the Yedlin analysis is to show that we’ve now entered a technological advancement period with regards to resolution in which it can be argued that the advancement serves no real purpose.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[Andrew Kimery] “That I could totally see happening. From what I’ve heard the show is so popular in Germany that even the actors with smaller, recurring roles get mobbed at public appearances too.”
Wouldn’t you just LOVE to see the stats on what WB makes on the most successful of their movies, verses what they rake in over the same period on something like this?
It’s definitely a very different global media landscape out there today.
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