Reality TV workflow!!

[Eron Otcasek]

hey…thanks that’s really helpfull…what is your relationship with producers, or writers during the post process???

[Eron Otcasek]

oops! responded to wrong post

[Eron Otcasek]

hey…thanks that’s really helpfull…what is your relationship with producers, or writers during the post process???

[Eron Otcasek]

also anyone have any insight to weather the big networks are hip to using FCP or if it’s still all AVID? how bout’ smaller networks like MTV?

still any more comments about interactions with producers…writers during this post process would be really helpfull…thanks.

[Ed Dooley]

Unfortunately, my credits don’t change the fact that reality TV is for the most part, the dregs of culture. But it was a nice try, turning the question of whether reality TV is the worst thing that ever happened to TV into “who gives you the right to criticize lowest common denominator TV?”. 🙂
BTW, I’m a fan of World’s Deadliest Catch (otherwise known as a documentary).
Ed

[Mark Raudonis] “[Ed Dooley] “If I had helped “invent reality TV” I definitely wouldn’t brag about it, I’d be mortified and apologetic. 🙂
Ed ”

So, what are your credits? Care to share with the group?

Mark”

[Ron Lindeboom]

Ed,

If you are going to insult a man, then it’s fair game to answer his question. Really. If you don’t, then watch how fast I turn your account off.

You are the one that crossed the line into making personally disparaging remarks and when he called you on it, you want to take the high ground??? No thanks it don’t work that way at the COW.

Answer his question, apologize or go away. Those are your only three choices, Ed.

Best regards,

Ron Lindeboom

Remember: Burt Bacharach lied. What the world really needs now is an undo button.

[Bret Williams]

? I WISH I was getting 8 hours a day sleep. Average or not. I get 5 or 5 1/2. That’s it. So that’s 21 hours a week less. Ouch! It’s a wonder I’m functioning. Sad but true. Of course I do have a 15 month old kid!

But in all seriousness, he was pointing out how hard a schedule 60 hours a week is and I was thinking that anyone who wants to be successful better be putting in 60 hour weeks. 40 hours a week is for those that just want to bring home a check.

[Herb Sevush]

Walter –

I happen to know Eron – he cut a one hour PBS pledge special for me a year ago and is a fine and accomplished editor. This whole thread seems to be coming down on him a little heavily – it seems to me he is simply, and pleasantly, asking for some help in an area he is not quite familiar with on the organizational side – and I thought that’s what the COW was for. If I had any experience with reality TV I would give him what help I could, I would hope that others would do the same – without assuming he’s in over his head, which he’s not.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Ed Dooley]

Ok, I went a bit too far (unintentionally), for that I apologize Mark (and the COW). What I really was attacking was reality TV, not you personally, but my usual tendency to put a smiley face (as I did in this case) when I’m joking, didn’t temper my comments I guess. I do think that reality TV is a vast wasteland, but I recognize that all of us do things to earn a living that we don’t necessarily like, I know I do.
I don’t think that credits in any way should be required to be able to criticize TV, but I’m not ashamed of mine, so:
Produced, Directed, & Edited kids’ films for years, including “Let’s Go To The Farm”, which won the American Libray Association’s award for best film of the year, numerous other national and international awards (and sold hundreds of thousands of copies worldwide). Produced & directed numerous documentaries such as: Sacrificial Lambs, Beyond the Broken Windows, and Tune In Tomorrow (airing next week on regional PBS). I’ve produced a bunch of special interest documentaries for broadcast on regional and international TV (mostly Ford Foundation and state & federal grants projects). Mostly these days though I travel around the world doing documetaries for institutional, corporate, and educational clients. I’ve worked camera on Why We Fight, the documentary that won at Sundance a few years back, various National Geographics HD, HGTV, Hallmark, BBC, Sundance Channel shows, etc.
Just a struggling rural videographer/producer/director/writer. 🙂
Ed

[Eron Otcasek]

thanks Herb,
great to hear from you…
hope I get this job!