Re: After a year has perception of FCPX changed?

[Steve Connor]

[Steve Connor] “[David Lawrence] “The bottom line is the magnetic timeline is a single track timeline that ripples by default and forces everything outside it to be in temporal relation to it, not the external window. For multi-channel work, there is zero advantage in this.”

We’ve been through this one before, it’s very easy to stop it rippling.
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Here’s an example and yes I know if you edit the primary there is a relationship to the clips above, but the workaround is very simple, you don’t touch the primary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sovqGU4pXw

Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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[David Lawrence]

[Steve Connor] “We’ve been through this one before, it’s very easy to stop it rippling.”

Yeah, the “P” key. That’s not the point.

The point is parallel tracks/absolute time vs single track/relative time.

FCPX isn’t the best tool for every possible media production. It’s not designed to be. It’s OK to acknowledge that.

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[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “FCPX isn’t the best tool for every possible media production. It’s not designed to be. It’s OK to acknowledge that.
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If you need fixed tracks then of course FCPX it isn’t the best tool for you, but your argument about absolute time and the primary storyline is flawed. You can easily edit in absolute time in FCPX if you don’t touch the primary.

Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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[Herb Sevush]

[Steve Connor] “If you need fixed tracks then of course FCPX it isn’t the best tool for you, but your argument about absolute time and the primary storyline is flawed. You can easily edit in absolute time in FCPX if you don’t touch the primary.”

As one who has never opened X, are you saying you loose no functionality by not using the primary, that the primary is of no greater importance than the secondary?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Tony West]

[Richard Herd] “and also secondary storylines are tracks.”

Yes.

I really don’t do things that differently than I did them before. I still stack clips up on top of clips.

It still has tracks, they just move out of the way when you drag one toward another.

That video was really cool, but it was made in 2002 in (in SD no less)

What somebody did then, you should be able to recreate with 2012 technology some ten years later.

[Steve Connor]

[Herb Sevush] “As one who has never opened X, are you saying you loose no functionality by not using the primary, that the primary is of no greater importance than the secondary?
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You lose the ability to use the precision trim editor so trimming has to be done “manually’

Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
Adrenalin Television

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

Just to put it out there:

yes, Adobe communicates much better then Apple, BUT:

– When I mailed Tim Cook (hey, why couldn’t I try?) about in how far they would take the suggestions and feedback of the real professionals serious in making FCPX better, I got a mail back 3 days later from the FCPX team that they want to have it known that they are taking FCPX and the professional market serious.

– When I mailed about a bug to Apple recently, I got a mail back 1 day later asking for specifics. When sending that, they confirmed sending it to their engineers.

[Chris Harlan]

[Richard Herd] ” and also secondary storylines are tracks”

No, they are not. Unless your plan is to redefine what a track is. Certainly, they have characteristics in common with tracks, but they do not–by any means–fit the full definition. For a secondary storyline to be a track it would have to be a bus-able isolated channel that runs the entire length of program in a consistent space.

[David Lawrence]

[Steve Connor] “You can easily edit in absolute time in FCPX if you don’t touch the primary.

LOL, yes Steve. That’s exactly how the primary was designed to be used. Kind of reminds me of this short film:

https://vimeo.com/42674279

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[David Lawrence]

[Chris Harlan] “No, they are not. Unless your plan is to redefine what a track is. Certainly, they have characteristics in common with tracks, but they do not–by any means–fit the full definition. For a secondary storyline to be a track it would have to be a bus-able isolated channel that runs the entire length of program in a consistent space.”

Yep. Well said, Chris.

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