Radeon R9 290 video card and Vegas Pro 13

[John Rofrano]

[Michael Chick] “I eventually will change the motherboard and chip, and if I can migrate the display card to the new hardware, then that would be great”

If you are buying for the future then get the 290X. That’s what I did. I bought a Quadro 4000 that my original Core 2 Quad really didn’t push hard but when I upgraded to a Core i7 years later the Quadro 4000 really worked better. It sounds like you are in a similar situation. It’s best to upgrade everything all at once but if you can’t, then start buying parts for your next system now knowing that they will perform better in the future when the system is more balanced.

~jr

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[Michael Chick]

Thank you so much again. You’ve all been more than helpful. Yea,sometimes we get into the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it mode”. As I mentioned before, I was really happy with my old setup till the 1920×1080 came along. I can live with a slower render, as I can just leave the system on overnight, but having a slow/choppy preview makes it difficult to do a proper edit.

So looks like I’ll be heading to the store to pick the TRI-X R9 290 4G D5 up:
https://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=5458920E-5359-4004-B041-DFA58823AB9E&lang=eng

A followup question would if anyone here has tried using this 290 card for a Hackintosh?

Thanx once again

[Michael Chick]

Bummer, I went to the store and found out that the Tri-X Sapphire 290X Card was out of stock, but I guess it was a “Blessing in Disguise”. The Sapphire Tri-X card is 305mm long, while the space available in my Case is only 295mm. The store clerk asked me to also consider the ASUS R9 290X DirectCU II OC. It is 287mm in length. Anyone has any experience between these two cards?

This website seems to suggest a marginal advantage of the ASUS Card, because it comes “overclocked” from the factory….
https://www.legitreviews.com/asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-sapphire-r9-290x-tri-x-video-card-reviews_132158

Thanx again.

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[John Rofrano]

[Michael Chick] “The Sapphire Tri-X card is 305mm long, while the space available in my Case is only 295mm.”

The other thing you need to be aware of is if your Power Supply Unit (PSU) can handle the newer cards. Most newer graphics cards require two (2) power connectors and if your PSU only has one you won’t be able to feed it power. Also, newer cards are power hungry! Some require 230+ watts of power just for themselves.

The Radeon R9 290X specifies that it requires 750W (minimum) PSU in it’s System Requirements. So if you have a paltry 500W PSU, you will may not be able to run this card. This is what I mean about keeping components balanced. Check all of the specs before you buy.

~jr

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[Michael Chick]

Thanx for the headsup again.
Yes, I changed the case a few years ago, and had the MasterCooler GX750 installed. (pix of box here:
https://www.xbitlabs.com/cms/include/image.php?src=/images/cases/psu-550w-850w/p12.jpg&width=400&height=460&cache=1&quality=100&aspect=0&format=

And as size limits what I can actually fit into the case, the ASUS R9290-DC2OC-4GD5
only requires up to 300W additional 6+8 pin PCIe power required.
( from their website: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/R9290DC2OC4GD5/specifications/ )

Am so glad I checked in with you all here. You’re such a great repository of information.

Gosh, I just noticed something else. Would this PCIE-3 card make a difference when I use it on my PCIE-2 Motherboard, or would it perform no different from my previous Card? ( the ASUS GTX 460 )
Sorry for so many questions…..

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[John Rofrano]

[Michael Chick] “Would this PCIE-3 card make a difference when I use it on my PCIE-2 Motherboard, or would it perform no different from my previous Card? ( the ASUS GTX 460 )”

It would probably make no difference. That is to say, you won’t get the benefit of PCIe-3 but it will be no worse than any other PCIe-2 card.

~jr

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[Michael Chick]

I see. Thanx. That being said, then would it make sense to buy the ASUS 390 card at this juncture then?
My primary problem, which triggered all these questions was that I was have “stuttering problems” trying to view the 1920×1080 P2 Footage in Sony Vegas 13 to begin with. Or would it make more sense to just keep pressing Shift+B to get a decent playback; enough to make the edits for the time being anyway….

Thanx again

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[John Rofrano]

[Michael Chick] ” That being said, then would it make sense to buy the ASUS 390 card at this juncture then?”

Assuming the card physically fits into your computer case, and your PSU has enough power to support it, and you can afford the price, I don’t see why not.

[Michael Chick] “My primary problem, which triggered all these questions was that I was have “stuttering problems” trying to view the 1920×1080 P2 Footage in Sony Vegas 13 to begin with.”

If you would like to upload a small sample of your P2 footage I would be happy to test it with my Radeon HD 7950 which is similar too the R9 280 to see if it plays back smoothly. You can use DropBox or something if the file is too big to upload here.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Michael Chick]

Sorry, a combination of being overly busy, coupled with the flu over the past few days. (No, definitely not MERS) Will shoot a few seconds of P2, and send it over via dropbox. Need to head out to work right now.
In the meantime, please have a look at one of my older projects here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS3mk83LbnQ

Thanx again

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

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[Don Cobble]

[Luxmark v2 is a good benchmark test for OpenCL, and verifying that your system is working well with opencl.]

[GPU-z and AMD system monitor are good tools to verify GPU utilization during timeline playback. Test Sony AVC, XDCAM, HDCAM-SR-lite, and XAVC media with effects to verify GPU acceleration in Vegas. Other workflows you will need to determine where the GPU acceleration problems are.]

Aaron I read the entire thread on open cl, I just installed an XFX AMD R9 290 on my PC2 system in place of Quadro k2000. Are you saying that after viewing the stats on the GPU-z for example that you can change settings to make the card more effective? or are these programs just to know the stats? I have seen an improvement on in VP13 for sure, but didn’t know, is it to be tweeked?

PC 1
I7 2.8 Ghz 16GB Ram
SSD 850 Pro OS drive
2x 850 EVO Raid 1TB
Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
GeForce GTX 960

PC 2
I7 3930K 3.2Ghz
32 GB Ram
SSD 850 Pro OS drive
2x 850 EVO Raid 1TB
3-4 TB HD
Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
PNY Quadro K2000

Vegas 13 & Adobe Production Premium CS6 & Avid Media Composer 5.5 -Edius 7.5 Pro -Sony Catalyst Production Suite

Camera
Sony EX1 shoot in 1920×1080 30P