QNAP and Promise Rack Systems

[Farhad Ally]

It’s truly amazing how you are so eager to help.

Your first answer helped me eliminate TVS-1282T3 and just as I was thinking, TS-1685 is the one, I saw your second reply for the rack – Now I am looking TS-1685-D1531-128GR for $5,298 and TVS-EC1680U-SAS-RP-16G-R2 for $6,106 which is not a significant jump (Except there will be the rack cost to add) – However in terms of pure specs, the 1681 seems much more powerful and and so a better deal (except I lose 4 Bays, but that’s okay) – Am I missing out on something, and what would you recommend between the two.

Also side question maybe silly but saw it on Amazon Review – Lenovo TS460 (https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/data-center/servers/towers/ThinkServer-TS460/p/77LS7TS460M) – Seems to have good specs and much much cheaper, would you even consider it? – If you ignore this part, I will get my answer and stop thinking about it.

Thank you

[Bob Zelin]

Hi Farhad –
replies below –

You write –
Your first answer helped me eliminate TVS-1282T3 and just as I was thinking, TS-1685 is the one, I saw your second reply for the rack – Now I am looking TS-1685-D1531-128GR for $5,298 and TVS-EC1680U-SAS-RP-16G-R2 for $6,106 which is not a significant jump (Except there will be the rack cost to add) – However in terms of pure specs, the 1681 seems much more powerful and and so a better deal (except I lose 4 Bays, but that’s okay) – Am I missing out on something, and what would you recommend between the two.

REPLY –
I would not buy either of these models. I would purchase the bare bones TS-1685 with 16 gig of RAM.
And if you want to be a “big shot”, get the model with 32 Gig of RAM –
here is it for about $3000 US
https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-TS-1685-D1521-32G-US-Qnap-High-Capacity/dp/B06XT33M3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528132682&sr=8-1&keywords=ts-1685

You are using this as a file server, not as a computer for rendering and processing. The cheaper unit, with the 16 or 32 gig of RAM will work perfectly fine. You do not need to spend $5298 or $6106. SAVE THE MONEY. Buy a good Netgear 10G switch.

you write –
Also side question maybe silly but saw it on Amazon Review – Lenovo TS460 (https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/data-center/servers/towers/ThinkServer-TS460/p/77LS7TS460M) – Seems to have good specs and much much cheaper, would you even consider it?

REPLY – now you are being foolish. DO NOT purchase a generic Windows server from Lenovo, Dell, HP, etc. for this application. You will fail. If you do not want to purchase a QNAP, plenty of other products will work perfectly for your application, as long as you have a good internal processor (like an Intel or AMD) and a 10G card. Products from Synology, Netgear ReadyNAS, Studio Network Solutions, Facilis, EditShare, AVID, ProMax, LumaForge, Apace, GB Labs, DDP, will all work wonderfully. If you get the Lenovo, you will fail, your boss will fire you, and you will be looking for a new job.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Farhad Ally]

Okay so definitely don’t want to get fired so Lenovo and others are out.

Going to go ahead with –
– TS-1685 with 32 gig of RAM and 12 x 4TB HDDs (Do I need to/should add the SSDs and M.2 to the TS-1685 – Will that help?)
– Netgear 10g Switch (If you have a recommendation, please do share)
– Cat6a Cables

– Just to double confirm, the above will be sufficient to work 4-5 streams of 4k?
– Any last advice/food for thought/things I should be aware of?
– You mentioned the other brands, would you suggest any other brandModel in similar budget that will be a better fit than the Qnap?

[Bob Zelin]

you do not need the SSD’s or M.2 SATA drives
this model will do 4 – 5 streams of 4K
you will need thunderbolt to 10G adaptors for your Mac’s, or 10G PCIe cards for your Win 10 PC’s to get these speeds.

Don’t lose my email address.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Farhad Ally]

Thank you so much for solving it out for me.

Highly appreciate it.

Far shot but we are based in Dubai, any way we can use your professional services here?

[Bob Zelin]

yes, I use https://www.teamviewer.com to remote into your system to do the setup.
It’s free for you. (not my service – but Teamviewer).

you can email me privately.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Farhad Ally]

Thank you so much – One last question – I was looking at the local suppliers for the drive and was suggested to consider the Qnap TS-1677X-1700 as the newer version – I did a little research but could not find any particular comparison between 1677 and 1685 except the one on the Qnap site which is purely technical.

They are similarly priced, could you help me choose between –

Qnap TS-1677X-1700-16G and Qnap TS-1685-D1531-32G

Thank you. 🙂

[Bob Zelin]

the TS-1677 is a TS-1685, but with an AMD Ryzen processor instead of the Intel Processor. I am sure it is excellent, but I have never installed one. If you want to be the first one that I know to get one, I will be more than happy to assist you with this. I just have no experience with the TS-1667x Ryzen based processor. It is supposed to be wonderful.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com