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put your money where your mouth is
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Maybe Allen’s original request missed the mark a bit, but I’ll take a stab at what he was getting at:
Don’t show me something sick, show me something big. Show me a major film or broadcast production editor or team use this for something intended to be seen by tens of thousands, if not millions, of people. Because if nobody in that realm can make it work, and work well, is there anything else to say?
They make a good point, Allen. I can make something ‘sick’-ish with iMovie. But you can’t pay me to assemble one of my shows with it.
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The most impressive editing I have ever seen is the editing I never noticed.
David.
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[Chris Stevens] “Did film editors in the 30s argue over what brand of razor-blade they used to splice the celluloid? Did 18th century playwrights argue over what animal quill they wrote with?
Did Shakespeare ask: “Show me something sick that’s been written with an Ostrich quill. Because until you do, I’m only writing this stuff with duck quills.””
Sure, editors argued about cutters, solvents, glues and moviolas.Lets forget about Shakespeare and Steven Spilberg.
I´m tired of big words (art, talent, creative freedom..)
I´m not an artist. I´m a video editor, and half of my job and skills are about fixing crap, recovering old stuff and mending cameramen mistakes.
Creative freedom in my job?
Yes, I have it when I edit something for my self.
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Maybe Allen’s original request missed the mark a bit, but I’ll take a stab at what he was getting at:”what mark did i miss? i just wanted to see cool stuff edited with fcpx. pretty simple. instead this thread spiraled into some weird philosophical territory.
but anyway, thanks for sending those links, really appreciate it!
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[Bobby Mosca] “Don’t show me something sick, show me something big. Show me a major film or broadcast production editor or team use this for something intended to be seen by tens of thousands, if not millions, of people. Because if nobody in that realm can make it work, and work well, is there anything else to say?”
Surely people realize this is not a reasonable standard to be applying to an application released three weeks ago. Even incremental updates to established NLEs aren’t generally pressed into service for high-end work that quickly.
With respect to adoption for different levels of production, FCP X is likely to follow a pattern similar to the original FCP, but probably a little faster. That is to say, it will be adopted bottom-up. My guess is someone will get some attention for editing an indie feature in it within the next 12 months.
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Rafa: I feel your pain. (Although sometimes it’s my mistakes I’m fixing, but whatever.)
Allen: Maybe I just found the term ‘sick’ too limiting. Bygones.
Chris: I’m supposed to wait how long? The bottom line for me is that Apple has shaken my confidence in their commitment to broadcast capable editing. From Helmut Kobler’s article “A Final Cutter Tries Out Premeire Pro” here at CC, Apple’s recent history looks like this:
“Apple took nearly 2.5 years to upgrade Final Cut Studio from version 2 to 3 (and v.3 was only a moderate upgrade at that). Until then, updates had come at a much more aggressive pace.
Apple cancelled the popular Shake, promising to replace it with a new tool that never came. (my addition: not really. Many of Shake’s features have found their way into the other suite programs, including FCX.)
Apple got lazy with its Logic Pro app as well, letting development creep along with an upgrade about every two years.
Apple stopped updating the Pro page on its web site long ago. There hasn’t been a new item posted in almost two years: https://www.apple.com/pro/
Apple took more than a year to fix a glaring Final Cut 7 bug that made its Close Gap command unreliable. To break a core Timeline feature like Close Gap and not fix it for 14 months was offensive and inexcusable.
Apple cancelled its Xserve RAID then its Xserve hardware.
Apple started taking longer and longer to release Mac Pro workstations, and absolutely phoned in the latest upgrade last July. 511 days in the making, the newest Mac Pro was one of the most un-inspired hardware upgrades I’ve ever seen from Apple.
Apple pulled out of industry trade events like NAB.
Multiple rumors (and confirmation of rumors) of significant layoffs in the Pro Apps division.
Multiple rumors that Apple was trying to sell off its Pro Apps division.”
Then Apple gives us X, which has gaping holes in it and some kinda weird features (CNN?), promotes it as a pro product which they knew wasn’t pro enough for an important segment of the industry, and now they’re saying “Trust Me! :D!”
Maybe Larry Jordan is right and we’ll all be using FCX in 18 months. Maybe you’re right and it will be a generation ahead of AVID and Premeire 12 months from now. But maybe not. Given the above and what has happened this past month, I just don’t have the confidence you do right now. So Apple is getting ahead of the game and looking to the world of editing in the next 10 years. I have to look to my future, too, and I have to decide if FC is worth the risk sooner rather than later.
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HA ha,
That was a funny one…
🙂David
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[David Battistella] “HA ha,
That was a funny one…
:)”Sorry, a bit too cute I suppose.
It was meant to be humorous (corny…but humorous)…not degrading.
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TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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