Premiere CS3 and dual quad-core mobo performance

[David Owen]

Jan,

The dealer wants to know if a red render bar appears above the stills on the timeline, but still seems to preview in realtime without rendering.

And, to confirm, you ARE using PPro CS3 with no cards like a Matrox product, right?

And my final question… Is your Premiere Pro CS3 part of the suite (including AE, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) or was it installed as the standalone product?

– David

[Jan Janowski]

The dealer wants to know if a red render bar appears above the stills on the timeline, but still seems to preview in realtime without rendering.

YES!!! As I mentioned before, All Tests were done without rendering, in a NTSC SD session, 48K audio

And, to confirm, you ARE using PPro CS3 with no cards like a Matrox product, right?
That is correct…. No Capture cards. (I do use a DV Transverter, but it was not powered up at the time)

And my final question… Is your Premiere Pro CS3 part of the suite (including AE, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) or was it installed as the standalone product?
It was part of a Suite, but that shouldn’t be an issue.

Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

[Vince Becquiot]

David,

It might be a good time to pickup one of these benchmark applications to see if there is a bottleneck somewhere in the system. Here’s one:

https://www.findapp.com/fMgmt/PDetails.aspx?PID=4623

Vince

[Jan Janowski]

Based upon info from the above post, I ran that benchmark, and here are results:
Display
Random Pixel 1166
Lines 2201333
circles 458442
rectangles 461362
texts 3684951
flood fills 216785440
draw 142164

Processor
MDIPS 12864
MWIPS 8841
Speed 2667

Memory
Integer 147570
Real 165862
Int Split 151520
Real Split 185461

Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

[David Owen]

Jan,

Thanks for the data. After talking with my dealer, we’ve concluded that the use of a Matrox codec in the project, causes Premiere to drop significant frames when trying to do a move and/or scale on an image of any size, even when NOT using the Matrox functions. To work around this, I must create a purely non-Matrox project and use Adobe’s functions only. To experience the transcoding benefits in speed offered by the Matrox RT.X2 card, I must output my project to an AVI, then transcode using the Matrox media encoding… this is a major disappointment to me.

I have just gotten the workstation back. I’ll run the benchmark and post the results as soon as possible… it may be a day or two.

Thanks to all for getting me this far. I appreciate all the suggestions and am keeping them on file!

– David

[Vince Becquiot]

Hate to say it, but Matrox has been a disapointment for many people and for many years. That’s not to say that they don’t make a good product, but they seem to drop support for the current version everytime a new release of Premiere comes out (I think Harm said it best, they make great door stops.)

Might be a good time to look a BlackMagic or even AJA.

Vince

[David Owen]

[Vincent Becquiot] “Might be a good time to look a BlackMagic or even AJA.”

Actually, I did. My understanding was that they simply provided uncompressed i/o benefits rather than actual acceleration… thus, I opted for what appeared to be the only game in Adobe’s town.

I come from a past filled with Fast’s DVMaster (the renowned “bleeding edge”), then Canopus’ DVStorm… until Canopus and Adobe “divorced”. I long for a DVStorm (and the Canopus codec), but using Premiere rather than Edius.

– David

[Arc Nevada]

In my opinion Premiere Pro works good enough with a mere 2.66 GHZ Core 2 Dual fro DV-25 adn DV-50. You get a good RT preview and then you render it out. I know the Matrox card does not have to render back to DV-25 tape but it does not take all that long to render. The AJA or Black Magic cards might give you a slight boost because it does have hardware to help read the DV codecs.

I used to use a Canopus DV Storm with Premiere 6.0. The suport was not bad but with the new Premire Pro and a Core 2 Dual I don’t miss it. I can lay down uncompressed with DV-25 and it works great. I can even do PIPs with the RT preview mode set to highest quality. I admit the DV Storm would out put to DV in RT rather than just give a good RT preview.

[Vince Becquiot]

The 8 core advantage comes in play with HD, especially if you are sending things to either DVD or Bluray. You are talking about saving hours in encoding time. And if you happen to own a 3D app like Cinema 4D, it’s heaven…

Vince

[Arc Nevada]

I am hip to 3D animation. While Premiere Pro may look almost as good in RT preview mode as it does rendered that is not the case for 3D animation. 3D animation must render in order to get the light through transparency and soft shadows to look 100% real. Realtime Open GL is only so good.