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  • Eric Santiago

    February 27, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    Aaah I just saw this post.
    I thought I was back in 1995, 2001, 20xx, etc… back to where we all just can’t see eye to eye on platform/app wars.
    Oh well, that escalated pretty fast.
    IMHO (I am not in LaLaLand or anywhere that counts) we all know that these apps have their ups and downs.
    Ultimately its the end user that pays the price.
    I too lean towards FCPX as far as best in show but I still have to live with Pr and MC.
    Its fun to read all these posts, makes me feel we all care and at least passionate about our craft 🙂

  • Oliver Peters

    February 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    [Tom Sefton] “but if it is just having a pdf open in a window within premiere surely its just as easy to have acrobat open while you edit?”

    Don’t get fixated in PDFviewer. It’s the technology I’m talking about, not a particular plug-in. What it does is up to the developer. Vimeo, Wipster, FrameIO, Colorista are all examples of other developers and what they’ve done using panels.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Scott Witthaus

    February 27, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “Oh well, that escalated pretty fast.”

    Yeah, thanks for that Oliver! Got to get you off the Adobe payroll! 😉

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 27, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    [Chris Harlan]
    If you can’t remember X having some “show stopping bugs” from time to time, than you’re just not trying hard enough. After all, it began with show-stopping issues!”

    It sure did. As hard as I am on Adobe, FCPX was a tinker toy when it first came out. I think it was about 2.5 years before I used it on a deadline driven job, and almost 2 years after that before the whole office switched. It took Apple a few years to get it up and running.

    Adobe has had about 20. After Effects is another weird animal, I won’t get in to that here.

    If I have a software conflict, it’s because I’m working on a Mac. I don’t have many plugins that are Pr specific, and I’m not using any 3rd party plugs on this job.

    I’m glad people are finding success with Pr. You are a crazy bunch! 😛

    I say that with all due humor and respect.

  • Tony West

    February 27, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “With the audio sorted in a way that’s usable for me, I’m looking forward to trying it out again.”

    I have to say Chris, the latest update is a game changer for X. The ability to be able to color code those roles is great on it’s own but added with the “Lanes” it couldn’t be any clearer where things are. With these changes they have the best of both worlds. The organization of tracks with the flexibility that the connected clips gives you when you want to move things around.

    The new Workspaces are great. There are now so many different ways to work. Extending the inspector the full length, the sorting view, the grading view (I love), and variations on those.

    I liked it before, but it’s a long way from where it started.

  • Brett Sherman

    February 27, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Yes, in theory there are tab-like things. But I’d say with FCP X, unlike Premiere Pro tabs, similar content is grouped together. Premiere tabs you can throw things together at will, which allows for much more customization and, yes, as many mention it can get out of hand fast.

    So then the question becomes which “tab-like” area in FCP X do you add a third party window? If it’s a global thing, it makes more sense in the media browser. If it’s a clip-based or project-based thing it makes more sense in the parameter window. There aren’t a lot of options of where to stick something like that and still retain FCP X’s tight control over the workspace. Which has it’s pros and cons.

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    Brett Sherman
    One Man Band (If it\’s video related I\’ll do it!)
    I work for an institution that probably does not want to be associated with my babblings here.

  • Robin S. kurz

    February 27, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I think it was about 2.5 years before I used it on a deadline driven job, and almost 2 years after that before the whole office switched. It took Apple a few years to get it up and running.”

    As far as I’m concerned, as of 10.0.6 (barely ONE YEAR after the initial release btw), I don’t see what “essentials” were missing. Monitoring, multicam, XML exchange (all as of 10.0.3 even, barely six months later) were all there. Sure, the big changes in the library structure of 10.1 and obviously the audio features with 10.3 were a huge step forward, but, at least for me, didn’t make previous versions any less viable for production work per se. The newer versions are just that much more convenient and more of a pleasure to use. ????

    – RK

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  • Chris Harlan

    February 27, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    And to be fair, I mostly cut promos, BTS and sizzles on Premiere, so everything is pretty short–yes, lots and lots of time manipulation, odd screen ratios, filters and GFX–but still short. I did cut a show on it back in September, but I broke it into acts, the longest of which was eight minutes. I could feel the strain, but I was also cutting on my Macbook Pro.

    For me, the buggiest issue currently is the disappearing timecode overlay. Granted, all you have to do is click on another timeline, then click back, but its annoying.

    One of the things I’m enjoying about it, right now, is its ability to work well at non traditional screen ratios. In January, I cut a fast-paced :90 Snapchat sizzle for an Amazon show at 1080X1920 (phone vertical). It was a lot of fun rethinking how to tell a fast, visual story at that ratio. Premiere held up fine! (though I was cutting this on a 12 core with 64G, and NOT on my laptop.)

  • Chris Harlan

    February 27, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    Tony, I really looking forward to playing with it. Things in my personal life have kept me away, but I’m hopeful to get there .

  • Robin S. kurz

    February 27, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “One of the things I’m enjoying about it, right now, is its ability to work well at non traditional screen ratios. In January, I cut a fast-paced :90 Snapchat sizzle for an Amazon show at 1080X1920 (phone vertical).”

    How is that in any way even the least bit unique to PPro?

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