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PhraseFind ignores ‘Search: Current Bin”
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Because you used PluralEyes to sync, all your sync media (picture and sound) exist as sequences. In addition to sequences being a bit more painful to edit from (drag into source monitor, rather than double click, etc.), you are finding that PhraseFind does not work on sequences. Now PhraseFind most likely found all the source audio that made up what is now in your sync sequence, but not helpful as you want to edit from the sync picture and sound.
In order to turn a sequence into a new synced source and behave like a source clip (subclip in this case), you need to make sure each sequence contains only one event. This is done by sub-sequencing each span of sync events in the timeline to its own sequence. The AutoSync those sequences to create a new subclip. I can Skype this via share desktop if you want to see how it works.
Michael
Michael Phillips
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Gotcha! We’ve been mis-communicating from the beginning 😉
I don’t use PluralEyes to sync my audio but DualEyes, the standalone app for the very reason you described.
So by the time I bring in the H.264 via AMA, all the clips have 2 sometime 3 or 4 audio tracks. I then transcode all the AMA’d H.264 and have DNxHD clips with multitrack audio. I then delete the AMAs.
PhraseFind works perfectly with these.
My issue was that for the interviews. I combine all the clips from that interview (max 10 min each) into a master interview sequence. I wished that PhraseFind gave me hits on the sequence and not the individual clips, therefore I find the following workflow much more workable:
– Sync the sequence with the first timecode of the first clip in that sequence.
– Video & Audio Mixdown the sequence (same codec – no transcode)
– Use Autosync to combine audio and video for that freshly created clip
– Delete all the original DNxHD clips I don’t need anymoreNow I have one clip of the interview with tracks of audio I chose to keep, searchable by PhraseFind.
Thanks for your offer to Skype. Very generous of you btw!
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This was a great workflow until I discovered that PhraseFind won’t index subclips which is what AutoSync creates… Argh…
Any ideas?
Reference:
“PhraseFind indexes all of your bins upon first launch of a project. Each project is indexed separately, and re-indexing only occurs when new master clips are added to a bin.”
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Nevermind:
“Will PhraseFind locate audio clips within Subclips or Group Clips?
Yes, PhraseFind does index and return Subclips and Group Clips.”
Somehow, it’s not searching my new sub clips. Maybe it needs more time. I wish we could monitor the indexing…
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The index is somewhat monitored by the green ball in the FIND window. You will see 1/4 green, 1/2, green, 3/4 green, all green depending on state. PhraseFind will find all instances of clips which is good and bad… In the case of master clips, subclips, .sync clips, group clips, and multigroup clips, all of them will be returned and their is no filter for “clip type” so you have to sort and scroll as needed.
There is a trick to make the the sequence timecode match the source timecode and that is by selecting the source clips and doing “AutoSequence”. That will lay all clips into the timeline where source and record timecode match. If shooting time of day, you will have black gaps where there is no material.
Michael Phillips
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[Michael Phillips] “The index is somewhat monitored by the green ball in the FIND window. You will see 1/4 green, 1/2, green, 3/4 green, all green depending on state. PhraseFind will find all instances of clips which is good and bad… In the case of master clips, subclips, .sync clips, group clips, and multigroup clips, all of them will be returned and their is no filter for “clip type” so you have to sort and scroll as needed. “
Somehow the newly created sub clips by AutoSync aren’t being indexed by PhraseFind. I waited 4 hours, still nothing… so I just deleted the PhoneticData folder after shutting down MC and restarted it. I am now monitoring the PhoneticData folder rebuilding ‘1’, one clip at a time – indexing… The ball is still 1/2 green.
Side note: Somehow, the newly created sub clips in Avid MediaFiles appeared in a new ‘2’ folder, so I hope PhraseFind will look at that one too. BTW, why is a ‘2’ folder created sometime?
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Subclips are only pointers to the original masterclip/mediafile so only masterclips and render files point to a mediafile in the Avid MediaFiles/MXF/1 (2, 3, 4) directory structure. The reason these folders are numbered is because Media Composer manages the number of files that the OS allows in a single directory automatically creating news ones as the number of files reaches that limit.
This should have no effect on whether the file gets indexed or not by PhraseFind as it will index the entire MXF folder as well as files being referenced/linked via AMA (not in the Avid MediaFiles folder).
Michael Phillips
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As I suspected, after monitoring PhraseFind re-indexing the whole project by watching the SearchData/PhoneticData folder, it ignores the ‘2’ folder which is where the new clips created by the Mixdown reside. Could this be a PhraseFind bug?
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Could very well be, I’ll test on my system by putting media into a 2 and a 3 folder and see what happens. Seems like this would have come up before if it was a bug – what version of MC are you running and what OS?
Michael Phillips
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Running MC 6.01 on 10.7.3
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