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[Michael Gissing] “Thanks for the info Walter.”
My pleasure — thanks to you and Jeremy for giving me the opportunity to spout off on one of my favorite topics!
[Michael Gissing] “Yes we live in times where processing power is so cheap it is easy to forget that what was gee whiz only a few years ago is ho hum now.”
This statement has a twin. We also live in a time where processing power is so enormous today that it’s easy to forget that what is gee wiz now will be ho hum in a few years.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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I don’t understand.
You are saying this only makes sense to Weta?
You must never transcode anything ever, or very little.
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[Jeremy Garchow]”I don’t understand.
You are saying this only makes sense to Weta?
You must never transcode anything ever, or very little.”I was implying that this sort of co processor would make more sense to a company that was doing huge rendering and number crunching manipulation and may well have custom software that can be tweaked to take advantage of this sort of multi core processor.
I don’t get that you see “makes more sense to X” as “makes no sense to the rest”. Also I said nothing about transcoding??
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[Michael Gissing] “I don’t get that you see “makes more sense to X” as “makes no sense to the rest”. Also I said nothing about transcoding??”
That’s not what I see.
I see this as making more sense to much more than the highest of high end, i.e. Weta
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“That’s not what I see.
I see this as making more sense to much more than the highest of high end, i.e. Weta”So we basically agree then. In the short term big players that have custom software can make best use. We can all potentially benefit but my question was whether software companies would see sense (ie $$s) in re writing software for this sort of co-processor over GPUs which they are currently doing.
If they do then we can all benefit. However when the trend is to cheap NLE software in mobile devices, I see perhaps less use for the average editor than say CUDA or OpenCL.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t know”
To hell with Persistent In and out points.
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[Walter Soyka] “ho hum”
all the processing power in the world won’t make up for the pedantic PIOP debate.
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[Richard Herd] “all the processing power in the world won’t make up for the pedantic PIOP debate.”
Speaking of topics I spout off on…
I asked for PIOPs, I got them, and I was wrong. PIOPs in FCPX, as implemented, are the worst.
What I really wanted was a method for addressing the underlying problem with FCPX vis-a-vis PIOPs, which I raised over and over in that so-called pedantic debate: setting IOPs is intentional and that data shouldn’t be nuked by the app with a simple focus-shifting mouse click. The editor should never, ever have to manually relocate range boundaries in a clip-ish object that he or she did not manually clear.
That’s why I first proposed pushing selection onto the undo stack, and why I most recently proposed what I’ll call SIOPs (stored in and out points) [link], which would not preserve the last un-favorited range as such, but would allow the last un-favorited range in a clip to be recalled with a keystroke after said range’s deselection (and before selecting a new range, which would have cleared the old range anyway). I think that SIOPs are a worthwhile compromise in that they don’t mess with FCPX’s range paradigm, thereby preserving something legitimately good about FCPX, but they also don’t wantonly obliterate user data, thereby preserving something legitimately good about FCP Legend.
I’m happy to debate their merits in any thread or sub-thread, even when they come up apropos of nothing like this — and that’s saying something in this forum!
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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PIOPs
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[Michael Gissing] “PIOPs NOOOOOOO…….”
Just when you thought threads on general computing trends were safe!
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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