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[James Ewart] “I occasionally pause for thought and wonder whether reinventing the wheel isn’t a bit of a can of worms.
Will Adobe and Avid follow Apple or are we out on a limb here?”
I would not expect Avid or Adobe to make such a drastic change all at once, only apple could get away with it. The jury is still out for a lot of people if FCPX is going to work long term. Certainly the jury is in for some people and Apple was found guilty of NLE-slaughter.
Personally, I like enough of FCPX to stick around for a while. It works differently, but once you learn how the timeline “moves” and understand the connections, it becomes a lot more fluid and natural. It still needs work and refinement as it is very young.
Jeremy
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I love no rendering delays and auditions but sometimes when I’m chugging away in the timeline I do crave tools like select all tracks forward without having to insert a gap and do a thing before I can do the thing I want to do.
Obviously it’s not going to be as natural as FCP 7 became over ten years but then I look across to Adobe and think “Is FCPX actually a better tool than Premiere now”?
Does the World need a different NLE?
What have Apple achieved by being so radical?
Where are the updates I thought were coming in September?
Somebody said to me that when the people at Apple got wind of the Mercury Playback Engine they had no choice but to pursue their own unique Imovie style interface. I don’t know if that’s true but there are a lot of patents flying around for sure.
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The way you sort of hacked it, is the way you should be doing it from the start in this case. Don’t move all the connected clips 6 frames back, then adjust the underlying primary. JUST adjust the underlying primary. The only point of contention is where that first clip is connected.
Like Jeremy said, hard to understand exactly without a screenshot, but I found pretty early on that essentially, it’s all TTTT all the time. From wherever you are in the timeline, everything to the right is always already connected. You want the whole timeline to the right to slide back 6 frames? Do a 1 sided roll on the primary at an applicable spot. You might have to adjust a connection point or two, or split a clip on the primary. But the same sort of workarounds occur in track based editing, and generally in X I just grab the clip on the primary and roll it back. Everything to the right comes along.
In the attached example see the yellow point that is going to be rolled. Everything to the right will move back, EXCEPT the top “layer” because it’s connected behind the roll point. So I’d have to either split that layer (same sort of thing I’d have to do in 7 because TTTT selects everything to the right that has a CUT to the right) or move the connection point to some point ahead of the spot I’m working. (In 7 I’d have to cmd+select any clips that overlap the TTTT point.) Any NLE is going to have these sort of concessions. Avid does the same thing completely differently and you’d have to learn it’s behavior rules. But when you don’t have to do any connection point maintenance, X’s method really is less destructive and quicker. In the image attached, I even broke open the audio on the clip so only the video rolls back. Then I can tweak the audio point after. But anytime to take an entire chunk of timeline and move it 6 frames, you should expect to have to do a little fine surgery somewhere.
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I want to move the second connect clip (highlighted white) about ten frames backwards. How do do that and take everything ahead of it with it?
Thanks
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[James Ewart] “I want to move the second connect clip (highlighted white) about ten frames backwards. How do do that and take everything ahead of it with it?”
Option command click the white connected clip to the gap underneath it.
Ripple 10 frames out of the preceding clip.
Done.
Jeremy
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[James Ewart] “I love no rendering delays and auditions but sometimes when I’m chugging away in the timeline I do crave tools like select all tracks forward without having to insert a gap and do a thing before I can do the thing I want to do.
Obviously it’s not going to be as natural as FCP 7 became over ten years but then I look across to Adobe and think “Is FCPX actually a better tool than Premiere now”?
Does the World need a different NLE?
What have Apple achieved by being so radical?
Where are the updates I thought were coming in September?
Somebody said to me that when the people at Apple got wind of the Mercury Playback Engine they had no choice but to pursue their own unique Imovie style interface. I don’t know if that’s true but there are a lot of patents flying around for sure.”
There’s been lots and lots of discussion about this over on the FCPX or Not: The Debate forum.
Apple said updates are coming by the end of the year.
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Thanks…bit o a Doh! moment by me.
I “thought” was trying that..didn’t work before. Pilot error. Incidentally if I select those four connected clip and cmd – G them into a storyline it does not seem possible to move the connectors…me being silly again?
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[James Ewart] “me being silly again?”
No. You have to do click the “shelf” of the storyline, which is the thicker bar at the top of the secondary storyline.
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James, I’m 5 or 6 major projects into this X thing, and I don’t even know how to insert a gap. Obviously there are other ways. Why are you finding reasons to insert a gap?
What has Apple achieved by being so radical? I think they achieved a couple things. They “accidentally” left the comparatively small pro market. Avid and Adobe completely fell for it and ran around with their heads cut off for a year thinking Apple blew it and the two of them fought over the small market that Apple had seemingly left to them. Turns out, everyone already had Premiere and Avid is losing money right and left. And now, X is much the choice of newbies, whether it be due to price, integration in the app store, or the easy learning curve from iMovie. Adobe and Avid just let Apple have those customers without a fight. And a year later X has grown up and is pretty capable. When any of those newbies decide to try premiere or Avid, they’ll instantly find it so much clunkier feeling than when an X convert tries to go back to legacy.
The FCP-X debacle was just a little warm-up for the Google Maps/Apple Maps scenario they probably knew was coming too. 🙂
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Hi Bret,
Well Gaps are a bit like mountains… it’s “because they are there” I guess.
But seriously, Gaps really help me block things out…I know I’m going to need a little pause, a few cutaways with just some music and I find them a really useful way of blocking out my main stuff. Before I found Gaps I could not use FCPX at all. They really help with getting the pace right I find.
I really like Gaps!
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