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[OT] idea for RAID
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[ben] “get some fancy blue lights and put them behind my system, so when my client hates the edit, i can flick a switch and mesmorize them!!!”
No no no, you got it all wrong. the lights go IN FRONT of your system. A couple of beers and some soft music also go along way to ensuring your client gets the full effect. Maybe a fog machine might enhance the ‘good vibes’ too though I’ve not tried that one. 🙂
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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yeah, its a good thing my studio is being sponsored by jagermeister these days!
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[ben] “yeah, its a good thing my studio is being sponsored by jagermeister these days!”
Wow, your agent is much better than mine. We just got Lucky Charms here. Good for a sugar rush though. ha ha!
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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agent, we like ot think of it as favors that are owed to us by a bunch of metal bands we got on mtv with there videos, lol!!!
oh you dont have money, jager will be fine!
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[walter biscardi] “the lights go IN FRONT of your system.”
How about a new drive tower design: the Lava Lamp Drive Array. The faster the editing goes, the hotter it gets and the more it moves.
— Bob C
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yo var,
I guess you would have to decide how critical your content on your drives is. If you are self-imployed, ain’t got the cash and don’t have to worry about deadlines or clients, then have at it. If, however, you do have deadlines and clients then I’d have to at least pony up for a decent controller.The controller you speced is RAID 0 or RAID 1. RAID 0 gives you JBOD (just a bunch of disks) with no parity disc for backup should a drive fail. RAID 1 effectively cuts your hard drive capacity in half. I’d at minimum get a good RAID 3 controller. I’m with the other guys here, I’d never edit without RAID 3. This is not to say that your build would be inferior, but they are machines and machines do fail. Protect yourself.
One good thing if you buy a RAID and you have problems, you tell the boss that ‘it’s their fault.’ If you build it yourself, guess what? …yeah. … not fun; especially if a client has to wait. (…how many of us has had to do the ol’ misdirection tap dance while the render bar creeps to the right?)
Huge MediaVault HMV-U320R-1250-Max 1.250 TB and no problems whatsoever. And it’s the RAIDIEST because it looks like my Mac!
pxlmvr
(p.s. horror story: I remember when I was an edit assist, i was told to swap out two drives out of the avid and put in two empty ones. i surely did … to the wrong avid … during a render … i thought the editor’s head was going to explode as he stomped back to the machine room!)
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[John Calhoun] “I guess you would have to decide how critical your content on your drives is.”
John,
I keep hearing this argument over and over again, and I really find it quite interesting, as it is undoubtedly of more concern to FCP users than it should be, and of more concern with FCP than it is on many other NLEs.
Having migrated to FCP from Discreet Edit, a NLE which manages media with virtually 100% precision, I have worked without fear of losing anything for many, many years. So long as you have a backup of your job (project file), Discreet is so accurate that a complete recapture is foolproof, including slow-mos, still frames, motion efx, etc. Unfortunately, recapturing inside FCP isn’t so worry-free. Apple to needs to get that sorted out sooner rather than later.
Since my gear is still realtively new I have little concern at this point. And, since I can swap out 1-terrabyte for about $500 total, I can put fresh drives in once a year. Try that with your preconfigured models…
DRW
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Even though hard drives are probably not as likely to fail as things like power supplies, they seem to get our attention, don’t they? And given DRW’s comment about FCP’s problem with recaptures, and for me at least, a lot of After Effects comps with long render times, hard drive failure is scary.
I would like to know what people think about the various options for serious backup devices or RAIDS. Does anyone here use backup devices instead of/in addition to redundant RAIDs? With cheap drive arrays such as the one DRW suggests, I’m wondering whether two of those in RAID-0, along with a strict twice-a-day backup regimen, would be better than a RAID-1. I’d like to be able to backup not just my media drives, but a “ghost” copy of my system drive too. Total security blanket.
Plusses and minusses of RAID-1/3 or backups?
— Bob C
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[David Roth Weiss] “Since my gear is still realtively new I have little concern at this point. And, since I can swap out 1-terrabyte for about $500 total, I can put fresh drives in once a year. Try that with your preconfigured models…”
Hi,
This is still not very safe, not nearly as safe as:
mirrored arrays
full backupBest Wishes,
Mitch
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[David Roth Weiss] “I keep hearing this argument over and over again, and I really find it quite interesting, as it is undoubtedly of more concern to FCP users than it should be, and of more concern with FCP than it is on many other NLEs.”
It’s a major concern with ANY NLE. If you’re under deadline pressure, then you need everything to be as fail safe as possible. JBOD is not nearly as fail safe as a preconfigured RAID.
[David Roth Weiss] “So long as you have a backup of your job (project file), Discreet is so accurate that a complete recapture is foolproof, including slow-mos, still frames, motion efx, etc. Unfortunately, recapturing inside FCP isn’t so worry-free. Apple to needs to get that sorted out sooner rather than later.”
“Excuse me Mr. Client, I know you were coming in here today to pick up your project, but my drives failed and now I need to recapture everything. Can you come back in a few days so I can replace my drives and then recapture everything for you?”
It really doesn’t matter how accurate your NLE is, if your drives fail at the wrong time, then recapturing is really not an option if you want to keep your clients. For instance I did a 3 hour DVD project two years ago with over 25 hours of digitized material and 500 photographs. Not exactly an easy project to bring back with any NLE and certainly would have resulted in a lost client if the media array failed as the deadline approached.
[David Roth Weiss] “Since my gear is still realtively new I have little concern at this point. And, since I can swap out 1-terrabyte for about $500 total, I can put fresh drives in once a year. Try that with your preconfigured models…”
FWIW, you can change out the drives on some Med
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