OT: Edit Software of Oscar Nominees

[Oliver Peters]

Based on Avid’s press release, it appears that “Dallas Buyers Club” was not cut on Media Composer. No idea what was used, though. Probably FCP 7 or Lightworks, but I’m just guessing.

– Oliver

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[Jok Daniel]

Horses for courses. Personally I think that Avid has an undeservedly bad reputation when it comes to effects. AniMatte, Paint, 3d Warp, SpectraMatte and the tracking tools are all very useful, and way more sophisticated than any of the stock FCP7 effects (8-point garbage matte anyone?)

For the kind of work which is the subject of this thread – creative offline editorial – Avid is still a perfect fit IMHO. For all the hype about Premiere and FCP, they still suck at basic editing tasks such as trimming. I suspect that is the real reason Hollywood editors prefer Avid (and, to a lesser extent, Lightworks).

[Andrew Kimery]

[Jok Daniel] “Horses for courses. Personally I think that Avid has an undeservedly bad reputation when it comes to effects. AniMatte, Paint, 3d Warp, SpectraMatte and the tracking tools are all very useful, and way more sophisticated than any of the stock FCP7 effects (8-point garbage matte anyone?)
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Avid does have some very good stock FX but the application and manipulation of those FX (nesting, the FX editor, etc.,) is so cumbersome though.

[Steve Connor]

[Jok Daniel] ” they still suck at basic editing tasks such as trimming.”

I’d say Premiere Pro CC is pretty close to Avid in trimming functions

Steve Connor

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[Jimmy Holcomb]

FYI,

Here is a query for all FCP at shotonwhat.com. It is a newish database, hopefully it will grow.

https://shotonwhat.com/editing_system/final-cut-pro-editing

[Jok Daniel]

[Steve Connor] “I’d say Premiere Pro CC is pretty close to Avid in trimming functions”

Yes, functionally they are pretty close. Premiere may even be more capable in some specific scenarios. But operationally Avid is still far ahead IMO. MC makes it much easier to set up a complex trim (e.g. by lassoing multiple edit points), and the live feedback on the timeline is far superior. It also makes it easier to control which trim point to monitor. Trimming in MC is a joy. In Premiere, it still feels like a chore to me.

Having said that, I’m thrilled to see Adobe making an effort in this area, and I hope they continue to improve their “editing finesse” features. As an offline guy these are the features that really matter to me, and as far as I’m concerned, Legacy’s heyday were the Dark Ages for this kind of stuff.

[Oliver Peters]

[Jimmy Holcomb] “Here is a query for all FCP at shotonwhat.com”

I would take that with a grain of salt. A lot are correct, but some are incorrect, like “Bourne Ultimatum”, which was cut on Media Composer. I’m sure, though, that there are other films which aren’t on the list. Interesting resource. Thanks.

– Oliver

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[David Lawrence]

[Steve Connor] “I’d say Premiere Pro CC is pretty close to Avid in trimming functions”

I’d agree.

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[David Lawrence]

I have word direct from the supervising editor that the Oscar-winning documentary, 20 Feet From Stardom was cut on Final Cut Pro 7.

Apparently there was an early push for Avid, but to avoid purchasing more Avid seats, they stayed with Final Cut Pro.

FCP7 works fine in Mavericks and on the new Mac Pro and is still heavily used in the doc world. Going on three years since EOL, it’s still very much alive and kicking.

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[Jok Daniel]

[David Lawrence] “FCP7 works fine in Mavericks and on the new Mac Pro and is still heavily used in the doc world.”

This is really baffling to me. Why would anyone want to use FCP7 for long form documentaries? What are its key strengths in this area? Out of the main contenders, it just seems like the worst possible choice for this kind of work. What am I missing?