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Don Walker
March 3, 2016 at 10:38 pm[Oliver Peters] “That’s where I believe a BMD acquisition of the IP for MC has a lot of possibilities. Granted, it’s pure sprculation, but it certainly has breathed life and growth into various other moribund brands.”
But with all the price cutting and innovation BMD has done with Resolve, they still (after 3 or 4 years) haven’t made a functional editor out of it, no matter what their marketing department says.
Their hardware products are very appealing from a price stand point, but regularly ship with advertised features missing, sometimes never to be seen over the life of the product.
I have in my office 6 to 8 various converters and DA’s with outputs or inputs that just died. I have an ATEM switcher with a couple of inputs and 1 Aux output that are also dead. (to be fair, this MAY have been due to a lightning strike, but there are others that complain about the same thing) Their computer IO software drivers are seriously messed up at this time also.
Is this really the company that you want buying a legendary NLE to save it and improve it?
don walker
texarkana, texasJohn 3:16
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Oliver Peters
March 3, 2016 at 11:35 pm[Misha Aranyshev] “At least the team making Resolve understands that a nudge is a nude, no matter roll, ripple, slip or slide so there is nod need to have four different shortcuts for it.”
What are you talking about? In MC, select with one of the Smart Tools, then the comma and period keys to nudge left or right.
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Scott Witthaus
March 4, 2016 at 1:30 am[Andrew Kimery] “where as large projects could have 4-5 editors working collaboratively at the same time (someone gets Act 1, another person gets Act 2, etc.).”
I have never worked this way. Isn’t it a pain in the ass? Where is the continuity of the storytelling if you have multiple editors cutting a show?
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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Andrew Kimery
March 4, 2016 at 1:59 am[Scott Witthaus] “I have never worked this way. Isn’t it a pain in the ass? Where is the continuity of the storytelling if you have multiple editors cutting a show?”
It takes some coordination but after a bit it’s second nature, and many times it’s the only way to meet deadlines. Splitting it up by act works out well since acts are usually self-contained to a degree, but I have had times where two editors were working on the same act (one on the first half, the other on the second half) and that starts becoming a PITA making sure the two halves come back to form a nice whole.
With regards to the continuity, many times if you are the new guy on a show you’ll watch past episodes for reference and then producers will help guide you until you get the feel for the show down. Many shows have lead editors too that will get all the finished individual acts, put them together and do a ‘style pass’ at the end to make sure the look/feel of the episode is appropriate and consistent. Even if you split it up to where each editor gets their own episode you would still need to maintain a cohesive feel between episodes.
Also, going into the edit either the writers or the story producers have written a script (or at least an outline) so there is a structure to follow (at least initially) so it’s not like each editor gets an act, does whatever the hell they want, and then you hope it all comes together at the end.
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Oliver Peters
March 4, 2016 at 2:17 am[Andrew Kimery] “It takes some coordination but after a bit it’s second nature…”
To expand on that, some of this depends on the show type. A show I worked on was made up of various studio and field segments, so it got broken down by segments. Then you have individual producers, the exec producers and a post supervisor who supervise everything. You also get consistency in that one person did all the final conforms/color correction (Symphony) and one of the other editors who always built the show opens/teases.
Based on who was available to do what, the editors were always working on each other’s segments. One person might have cut a segment and then a few days later another was cutting it down for time and making changes to address notes. Plus you are working on several different shows at any given time.
In another example, look at feature films. While the majority of films are done by one editor and 2 or more assistants aiding the process, there are a few with 2 and even 3 editors. Sometimes the director does some of the editing with scenes and reels bouncing back and forth between the director and the editor.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Neil Goodman
March 4, 2016 at 3:09 am[Oliver Peters] “To expand on that, some of this depends on the show type. A show I worked on was made up of various studio and field segments, so it got broken down by segments. Then you have individual producers, the exec producers and a post supervisor who supervise everything. You also get consistency in that one person did all the final conforms/color correction (Symphony) and one of the other editors who always built the show opens/teases.
Based on who was available to do what, the editors were always working on each other’s segments. One person might have cut a segment and then a few days later another was cutting it down for time and making changes to address notes. Plus you are working on several different shows at any given time.
In another example, look at feature films. While the majority of films are done by one editor and 2 or more assistants aiding the process, there are a few with 2 and even 3 editors. Sometimes the director does some of the editing with scenes and reels bouncing back and forth between the director and the editor.”
Happens alot with Promos and Trailers too. Multiple editors jumping in on each others cuts because producers only can book so much time with an individual editor. Some people are using the same footage to cut different spots. One persons working on the :30 while another is working on the :15, then the :10,etc. Someone’s doing the launch and another is doing shoulder programming or an episodic.
All in the same project with the same source files and elements. Works like butter.
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Neil Goodman
March 4, 2016 at 3:14 amSlide is option shift, lasso and then < or > to nudge by frame or M and ? to nudge by 8 or ten frame increments depending on the frame rate.
would be nice to have a kb shortcut to enter slide mode but its a non issue and fast already enough already.
You dont even need to pick a tool or anything to slip. Just park over a clip and < or > or M or ?
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