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OSX 10.8 + QTX + FCPX fully color managed
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[Oliver Peters] “I’ve done a lot of themed attraction projects (museums, theme parks, kiosks, special venues) over the years. In almost all cases, the final audio mix is done on-site so that the mix is specific and conforms to that space.”
I’ve done final color this way, too — in the space, with the lighting in place.
For an install, I recently used a color-managed workflow on the front end, tweaked the color in the space, then built a LUT based on those tweaks to apply to subsequent content.
[Oliver Peters] “Unfortunately in the consumer world, there’s no guarantee this will be the same. “
The painful truth.
[Oliver Peters] “The last time I delivered art for a print ad, the company doing the prepress asked for not only the TIFF file, but also a print-out on paper that reflected the colors the way the ad should appear.”
This is exactly the sort of problem that color management and soft-proofing was meant to eliminate. I guess that printers can no longer assume that production is happening in a color-managed environment and try to spot-check colors off presumably unmanaged print outs to cover themselves?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “[Oliver Peters] “Unfortunately in the consumer world, there’s no guarantee this will be the same. ”
The painful truth.”
We need to come up with a clever sRGB initialism for the digital era like Never The Same Color (NTSC) as clearly, the variables remain in a digital age. I’ll start.
standard Recommended Gamut Blunders
still Receiving Gamma Bollocks
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[Jeremy Garchow] “We need to come up with a clever sRGB initialism for the digital era like Never The Same Color (NTSC) as clearly, the variables remain in a digital age. I’ll start.
standard Recommended Gamut Blunders
still Receiving Gamma Bollocks”
Brilliant! How about sometimes Renders Get Broken?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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Interesting…As a side note, has anyone noticed that in Lion you can encode directly from the Finder using the “right click/services/encode selected files” command? There are not many picks to choose from, but it’s useful nonetheless. And to stay on-topic, there’s even an error message that mentions color management. So, has ML expanded that somehow? BTW, this “error” cancels the encoding process.
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I noticed the right-click convert in 10.8, quite useful for both images and video.
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Color management in FCPX is a great thing but at least for me it has led to more problems because FCPX is the first program that actually reads colorspace (HD709, PAL/NTSC 601) tags in Prores files and makes color conversion based on those. Ans it seems that only Apple software currently tags Prores files correctly. So if you bring for example SD Prores files from After Effects, Premiere, Episode… You notice in FCPX that those files are tagged with HD709 colorspace and colors get little bit shifted.
I think FCPX assumes if there’s no colorspace tag, colors are in HD709 color space. So if you are currently trying to build color accurate workflow for example between Adobe suite and FCPX it’s impossible because Adobe’s programs doesn’t tag color space to Prores files. Not even when you have color management turned on in After Effects.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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[Tapio Haaja] “I think FCPX assumes if there’s no colorspace tag, colors are in HD709 color space. So if you are currently trying to build color accurate workflow for example between Adobe suite and FCPX it’s impossible because Adobe’s programs doesn’t tag color space to Prores files. Not even when you have color management turned on in After Effects.”
This has been a persistent problem with Apple and it’s based on how QT handles these things. I guess the same issues were carried through with X. Apple’s official position (this was told to me directly by an Apple manager when I complained about it) that Apple has published profile specs for others to follow. If a company assigns the wrong profile or no profile at all, then Apple cannot be responsible for the result.
In the absence of a profile, Apple assigns the assumed profile, which can often lead to the wrong results. In the past, I could not get the correct appearance out of PNG files generated by a PC when imported into FCP 7. I had to wash them through GraphicConverter and turn them into BMPs before FCP 7 would give me correct results. Even though the same PNG files on the same machine were correct in Avid Media Composer and all Adobe apps.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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