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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy OOPS….. Editing a 720p project… now client wants SD instead… Help?

  • Bret Williams

    November 20, 2007 at 3:38 am

    I’ve never heard of this. Are you sure? I always assumed pan and scan just meant that was the process that made it 4:3. Somebody “pan and scanned” it.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 20, 2007 at 3:49 am

    It happens during encoding, and it’s not something that Compressor/FCP can do. Here’s a link to software that will add the information to the MPEG-2 stream as proof of concept.

    https://www.pixeltools.com/tech_tip_cablelabs.html

    Someone does pan and scan it, but this way, they encode one movie for both 16×9 and 4×3 monitors without a letterbox on 4x3s.

    I have not been able to track down much info on this, so everything I know is from my limited internet research. It seems to happen only on super high end encoding/authoring systems.

    Jeremy

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 20, 2007 at 10:54 am

    [JeremyG] “I have not been able to track down much info on this, so everything I know is from my limited internet research. It seems to happen only on super high end encoding/authoring systems.”

    You can also do pan and scan using Color. It’s a manual process, but you can perform the procedure there as well.

    And yes, Pan and Scan is exactly what Jeremy describes, you’re able to pan and scan the 16:9 image into a 4:3 frame and move the framing accordingly.

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  • Matthew Abourezk

    November 20, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    Thanks all for the responses…..

    One final round of questions then in regard to editing in HD and finishing (DVD) in SD.
    This is something I could learn with experimenting but for the sake of my schedule, I will ask….

    HD and SD are totally different height and width ratios. What is going to happen when I import my HD ref movie into DVDSP? Black bars at top and bottom? Everyone going to be short and fat?

    And finally, if I stay within the safety zones in HD, will I be good to go when I change everything to SD?

    Thanks again…

    Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
    (203) 327-6617

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 20, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    [mabou2] “HD and SD are totally different height and width ratios. What is going to happen when I import my HD ref movie into DVDSP? Black bars at top and bottom? Everyone going to be short and fat?”

    If you set it up as a 16:9 widescreen DVD, it will be letterboxed.

    [mabou2] “And finally, if I stay within the safety zones in HD, will I be good to go when I change everything to SD?”

    If you stay in letterbox, yes.

    If you require the project to be 4:3 centerpunched, I’m almost certain Compressor can do this as well when you make the MPEG-2 movies. I’ve not had to do this, but I’m pretty certain you can do this.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 20, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    [walter biscardi] “You can also do pan and scan using Color. It’s a manual process, but you can perform the procedure there as well. “

    Then can you export the pan and scan database and put it into DVDSP?

    You can do a manual pan and scan in FCP too, but the probelm is that you will have a 4×3 movie. A real pan and scan would allow the enocidng of one anamirphic movie and have it play full frame on either 4×3 OR 16×9 monitors.

    Pretty sweet. And you say Color can do this?

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