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  • Chris Harlan

    May 8, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    [John Davidson] ” I like it – and I own it. it’s pretty great.”

    Trouble-maker.

  • John Davidson

    May 8, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    LOL!

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Chris Lehmann

    May 8, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Reading the responses in this thread makes me wonder why many video pros I talk to still scrunch up their face at any mention of FCPX. I was talking to some video guys at a conference a few weeks back and mentioned I cut the videos for the conference on FCPX. They scoffed at this and said they would never touch it because they knew it was “complete crap”, “iMovie Pro” and “a toy”. Why is this attitude still so prevalent, and what has to change for people to change their knee-jerk reaction to it’s initial release?

    I’m a convert from FCP7 and I love the X workflow once it clicked with me. The biggest benefit, as others have said, is that you can accomplish the same things you could in other programs in half the time. Especially for fast-turnaround stuff like news and broadcast this is a massive advantage!

  • Neil Goodman

    May 8, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Balancing things out a bit. Theres things i like, theres things i hate. Theres nothing i love, and nothing i see compelling enough to jump in full time especially with other very capable options on the market. The general consensus where i live (LA), is thats it DOA. Call that just plain ignorance or what you will, but it hasnt broke into any markets im seeing, especially broadcast.

    Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – The Esquire Network – NBC/Uni

  • John Davidson

    May 8, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    That is changing, Neil. I think by end of summer we’ll have some interesting developments regarding this. Probably the biggest hangup right now is shared systems on a large scale. Good luck with the launch, btw!

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Michael Sanders

    May 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    [craig slattery] “I met up with some other editors working for the BBC cutting news in X just last week”

    Craig, that’s really interesting because I’ve always thought X would be great for news. Is this at NBH or out on the road?

    Michael Sanders
    London Based DP/Editor

  • Chris Harlan

    May 8, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    [John Davidson] “Good luck with the launch, btw!

    Yeah, break a leg on the Esquire thing. It sounds like fun!

  • Herb Sevush

    May 8, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “[Mark Suszko] can it deliver at least everything we had in 7, with regards to machine control,

    Nope, though there are plenty of 3’rd party solutions to this if you need it. Blackmagic has some reall nice, inexpensive stuff”

    Let’s be perfectly clear here. FCPX has no tools for tape out. You would have to export a finished master file and then use something else (FCP7) to then layback frame accurately to tape. No way to layback from a timeline, no way to insert edit a correction. Nada.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    May 9, 2013 at 12:29 am

    [Herb Sevush] “Let’s be perfectly clear here. FCPX has no tools for tape out. You would have to export a finished master file and then use something else (FCP7) to then layback frame accurately to tape. No way to layback from a timeline, no way to insert edit a correction. Nada.”

    Correct. If you have FCP 7 and/or a broadcast monitor box (AJA,BMD etc), you likely have all the tools you need.

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Joseph Owens

    May 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    [Chris Lehmann] “The biggest benefit, as others have said, is that you can accomplish the same things you could in other programs in half the time. Especially for fast-turnaround stuff like news and broadcast this is a massive advantage!”

    If this is the biggest benefit, then that’s great for the fast-turnaround (disposable) market. However, if your project requires thought and review, although “sharing out” an upload is an advantage for non-participatory collaboration, then is editing speed an issue at all? I still don’t think there is an AMPAS award for “fastest editing”, although I do hear over and over that any editor’s greatest attribute was that “he (sic) was really fast“. Maybe this is a hangover form when edit suites went for large sums of money / hour.

    What is genuinely fascinating to me is how many argue for the “all-inclusive” application so that the one-man-band can do everything right in the timeline. And then if that function is not available, then the apologists are all over the, “well, there’s always a plug-in or third party solution, or external support… blah, blah, blah….” Sounds the same out of both sides of the mouth to me.

    When desktop publishing took over, the promise was for a fast, efficient, paperless industry. Now we use more paper than ever, an author does everything themselves, the spell checkers don’t work, and there is no fact-checking. Even in the days of the Apple II, processors were wasting (relatively speaking one computer cycle = one human heartbeat) entire lifetimes waiting for a human to hit the keyboard again even if they were banging out an ellipsis…

    This whole speed and efficiency thing is, as Frank Herbert philosophized, the work of Satan.

    And its really more than two years later. Seems like an awfully long time reinventing the wheel when you already know it should at least be “round”.

    jPo

    “I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.

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