One of a thousand posts with some 10.2 info….

[Timothy Auld]

I pads are a convenient ancillary tool that some business people use and are inexpensive enough that even if the employer has purchased them for employees they relatively inexpensive and are easily replaceable. But when was the last time you walked into a Fortune 500 company and saw a whole bunch of Mac’s computers lined up? My guess is never.

Apple has very little penetration in the enterprise market. I know this for a fact. They has about 8% of global enterprise spending on computers and hand held devices, the vast majority of that being devices.

Tim

[Scott Witthaus]

My question still stands. Where are you getting your information? Personal observation? If so, that’s cool, but needs to be taken in context. No biggie, just when broad statements like that are made, it’s interesting to find out the source.

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Steve Connor]

[TImothy Auld] “Apple has very little penetration in the enterprise market. I know this for a fact. They has about 8% of global enterprise spending on computers and hand held devices, the vast majority of that being devices.
“

I do a lot of work with IBM who have recently partnered with Apple to develop enterprise Apps, apparently it’s going very well.

Since BYOD has started becoming prevalent I have noticed that there are more iPads and MacBooks than ever in the businesses I visit.

[Timothy Auld]

Are you kidding me? Your citation is that you see a sh*t ton of ipads out there and you are taxing me about my sources? It is well known that Apple has never made inroads in Enterprise. They don’t want too. They do pretty well without it. But are you seriously telling me that Apple does have Enterprise penetration? Everyone knows that they do not. My sources are the New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, PC Magazine and a hundred others. What are your sources that tell me they do. Oh wait – you don’t have any, do you?

Tim

[Timothy Auld]

Not impinging on Microsoft’s stranglehold – even the tiniest bit – on IT departments globally.

Tim

[Timothy Auld]

But if you want to log on to a company computer you’re not logging on to a Mac. Perhaps it’s different in the UK, but not here in Freedom’s Land. MS rules in big companies. Period.

Tim

[Shawn Miller]

[Steve Connor] “[TImothy Auld] “Apple has very little penetration in the enterprise market. I know this for a fact. They has about 8% of global enterprise spending on computers and hand held devices, the vast majority of that being devices.
”

I do a lot of work with IBM who have recently partnered with Apple to develop enterprise Apps, apparently it’s going very well.

Since BYOD has started becoming prevalent I have noticed that there are more iPads and MacBooks than ever in the businesses I visit.”

Yeah, that’s pretty standard for IBM. They’re using Apple in the same way they used Red Hat in the mid 2000’s – to compete with MS and partners in the datacenter. In this case, they’re getting into banking, retail and airlines with solutions for mobile using Apple hardware. Those are huge opportunities, and some companies are doing big business there already. Regarding hardware, Apple is still a pretty minor player there. There are more Macs in the enterprise to be sure, but it’s still over 90% Windows “out there”. BYOD has actually been a good thing for MS, because it strengthens their cloud and SaaS story. Anywhere, anytime, any device. When you log into Lync, Exchange, Office 365 or OneDrive, MS doesn’t necessarily care what your OS is… they care that you’re logging into Lync, Exchange, Office 365 or OneDrive. 🙂

Shawn

[Timothy Auld]

Oh my goodness, Scott – what happened to you? I thought you saw a sh*t ton of ipads our there in the business world and that proved that Apple was – at least – coming up in that world. What happened? Did you find out that Apple has no more than 8% penetration in the enterprise world? And did you just decide not to acknowledge that point?

Tim

[Scott Witthaus]

[TImothy Auld] “Did you find out that Apple has no more than 8% penetration in the enterprise world? “

We are veering wildly OT here! 🙂

Here is another quote from you: ” And Apple does have a monumentally bad reputation in the business world. ”
You changed from reputation to marketshare. Which one is it? Marketshare and reputation are two different things. One is qualitative, the other quantitative. My sources are simply observation, I admit. But there are a few articles out there to support it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-ipad-totally-changed-the-world-in-just-three-years-2013-4

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/technology/21tablet.html?_r=0

https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-latest-ipads-why-business-use-will-ultimately-trump-personal/

Anyway, apologies in veering OT.

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Brett Sherman]

[TImothy Auld] “MS rules in big companies. Period.”

In our organization everyone wants Macs, but the IT department doesn’t allow them to get Macs without some sort of special exemption. Our floor, communications, is the only one that gets Macs. Everyone is jealous of us.

The real stranglehold is IT departments trying to make life easy for themselves, if it were based on efficiency and the desire of the actual workers there would be a different reality.