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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    What’s funny is many of your requests were handled several years ago by the Pinnacle CineWave including one that isn’t on your list. Realtime Chroma Key. As in Real Time Edit To Tape with No Rendering Chroma Key.

    Also how about realtime Animation codec with alpha support? Again, realtime edit to tape alpha support.

    What this shows me is that we require an additional hardware board to make realtime really real in FCP. Like Resolve leaning on one GPU card exclusively to give you realtime features. Or Avid with proprietary hardware for more realtime effects.

    I don’t know what Pinnacle did with their board when it was available for FCP, but it had more realtime features than we’ve ever had since it left. Of course most folks weren’t willing to pay for those features so as the market has gone “cheaper faster” for the majority of FCP users, not sure how much of a return on investment there is for making hardware acceleration cards and software.

    I’m just very interested to see what Apple says, or doesn’t say, what Apple shows, or doesn’t show, by NAB 2011. As I’ve said before, our entire architecture is set up to run any NLE on the Mac platform so it’s pretty much as easy as buy the new software and start working with that. That’s true for pretty much anyone running FCP and that’s one of the beauties of what Apple created for all of us. Non-proprietary hardware that allows us to run any NLE software we choose.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
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    Biscardi Creative Media

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  • Herb Sevush

    October 2, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Walter –

    It’s really not surprising that the cinewave could do many of these things. I’m an old Discreet Edit*or, and most of those features were available 10 years ago on those systems and the Targa board that was the basis of that system is a variation of the cinewave.

    While it’s true there are options out there I would rather not have to go thru the learning curve again. Premiere is still the runt of Adobe’s litter, little brother to AE and Photoshop, and while it’s technically advanced i don’t believe their design team is particularly concerned or informed about the needs of broadcast editors. As for AVid, I’ve been avoiding them for almost 20 years now, but tomorrow never knows.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • David Johnson

    October 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    [Jeff Bernstein ] “Tiny chocolates for my pillow”

    [Herb Sevush] “most of those features were available 10 years ago on those systems”

    Those two statements seem to have in common that they, in different ways, allude to the days when the companies that made our tools catered to the professional market because we were either their best by far or only customers, neither of which is true any more … and never was for some companies. So, we may as well forget the tiny chocolates since it increasingly seems that we’re lucky if we get the clean sheets otherwise reserved for important customers – the much larger consumer market.

    What the _____ is a QuickTime X!? And, considering I still have installers for QuickTime 1-7 archived (please don’t ask me why), why is it suddenly so hard to download QuickTime 7 without iTunes?

    I basically started on Discreet *Edit after my first brief stint with Avid and also encountered several other systems throughout my career that easily did many things that are still a struggle for the market-leading tools 10-15 years later … personally, I miss the days when there were companies that focused on the pro market.

  • Jay Soriano

    October 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    I started with Adobe Premiere in 1997 and what a horrible experience it was in long projects. Seeing that it got recoded and redone as well as hearing all the positive reviews,especially seemless integration with Photoshop and After Effects. I am ready to switch over back to adobe if the time were to come to an end with FCP. But seems FCP is not ready to to bail on us just yet. So FCP is my only editing choice of generating income for now.

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 2, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    [Jay Soriano] “I am ready to switch over back to adobe if the time were to come to an end with FCP. But seems FCP is not ready to to bail on us just yet. So FCP is my only editing choice of generating income for now.”

    If you are an island unto yourself, like the BBC or a corporate production department, then you can make the switch anytime. If you still work with outside production companies, other freelance editors and such, right now FCP is still king.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
    HD Post and Production
    Biscardi Creative Media

    “Foul Water, Fiery Serpent” Winner, Best Documentary, LA Reel Film Festival.

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  • David Johnson

    October 2, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    My hope for seamless integration with Photoshop and After Effects making it practical to do everything needed with tools from the same developer and suite and, therefore, focus more on the craft than wasting brain space thinking about different interface conventions, etc. is why I always wished Premiere would’ve matured faster and more steadily. But, it didn’t … and there’s no doubt FCP is King now. Like any other, it’s got some weaknesses, but it’s generally pretty awesome … and it pays my bills too, which I’m grateful for.

    Maybe it’s just me, but despite Adobe’s failings with Premiere, they seem to have a better track record of not forgetting about their pro market even though they ventured into the consumer market … am I dreaming to wonder whether there will be a day when Adobe buys the Final Cut suite from Apple and integrates all the best of both suites? Or, did that already happen in the same dream where I saw Steve and Bill ballroom dancing together in their Skivvies?

    Just to be clear, I’m not bashing Apple … Apple rocks … just think the consumer market success of recent years has hurt the pro market.

  • Mark Palmos

    January 14, 2011 at 12:14 am

    I really do hope these are just rumors, usually around this time, every second year, there are release rumors… but its been very quiet on that front.

    I had to laugh at this quote from the story that started this thread:

    “a report claimed that Apple was looking to transition Final Cut Pro Pro from a strictly professional product to more of a “prosumer” offering, but Apple CEO Steve Jobs dismissed those concerns, stating that the next release of Final Cut Pro “will be awesome” ”

    hysterical, but sad… hearing that from the king of hyperbole engenders no comfort at all 😉

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 14, 2011 at 12:22 am

    [Mark Palmos] “stating that the next release of Final Cut Pro “will be awesome” “”

    Can’t wait for Final Cut Awesome!

  • Mark Palmos

    January 14, 2011 at 12:38 am

    heh heh, yeah, perhaps its going to “change everything… again”

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