Ogg theora encoder

[Nathan Grout]

“??? IMHO OGG is dying/dead. Theora is a very poor and inefficient codec. For those that need free open standard they will likely use WebM (VP8). ”

I agree that VP8 is a great codec, but right now, Theora is more prevalent when it comes to browser support (see https://diveintohtml5.org/video.html#what-works). Unfortunately, there isn’t a single web-standard codec. I’d be all for VP8 taking on that role, but it just hasn’t happened yet.

I guess my point is, right now Theora/Ogg is a prevalent form of standards compliant web compression and until that changes, we as video content generators are going to have to support it.

[Nathan Grout]

“??? IMHO OGG is dying/dead. Theora is a very poor and inefficient codec. For those that need free open standard they will likely use WebM (VP8). ”

I’ve had great results with Theora, so I guess I’m not sure what you are talking about. But your comment brings up another interesting question. What are the best options for Webm compression?

[Craig Seeman]

[Nathan Grout] “Theora is more prevalent when it comes to browser support “

More prevalent than WebM but not more prevalent than H.264 HTML5 which both YouTube and Vimeo offer for example and what is used on all iOS compatible web pages.

The next version of FireFox will support WebM. Nightly builds are available.

[Nathan Grout] “Unfortunately, there isn’t a single web-standard codec. I’d be all for VP8 taking on that role, but it just hasn’t happened yet.”

H.264 dominates by a W I D Emargin right now with HTML5 thanks to Apple. Anybody claiming otherwise doesn’t look at web analytics. It’s not even close.

[Nathan Grout] “I guess my point is, right now Theora/Ogg is a prevalent form of standards compliant web compression”

It’s not at all. Mozilla browsers support Theora but that’s about it. Flash dominates and most flash these days is H.264 and although support for HTML5 is weak most of the support is H.264 due to iOS. As noted before YouTube and Vimeo support H.264 HTML5 (although Flash dominates).

[Nathan Grout] “we as video content generators are going to have to support it.”

Very few use Theora except for those that were concerned about licensing and that’s not even an issue given MPEG-LA’s position on H.264 licensing.

The link you post is dated and has no information about browser market share and web analytics. Pleases don’t post misinformation claiming it to be current fact.

[Craig Seeman]

[Nathan Grout] “I’ve had great results with Theora, so I guess I’m not sure what you are talking about.”

You apparently aren’t an experienced compressionist. Sorry if that’s insulting but Theora can’t come close to either H.264 or WebM for quality/efficiency. There’s been some very good comparisons.

https://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/ogg-vs-h264—round-one.html

[Nathan Grout] “What are the best options for Webm compression?”

Telestream Episode 6 and I believe Sorenson Squeeze 6.5

[Andrew Wilson]

ffmeg2theora is available only through the command line interface, and it is supposed to be good for batch conversions, though I have yet to learn how, but perhaps you will have more luck. The link below is some examples of tags you could use.

https://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/examples.html