nVidia PC envy…

[Andrew Richards]

[Walter Soyka] “It has six times the number of CUDA cores, but I’d also note that it has the same amount of RAM (2 GB) — so while performance will almost certainly be higher across the board, there may be some cases where memory will cause a bottleneck.”

They are also PCIe 3.0, so the data can get in and out twice as fast and might require less RAM for buffering. I guess.

Best,
Andy

[Michael Hancock]

I don’t recommend cutting a feature at 4K using the .r3d files. You’ll definitely want to offline/online this. Avid and Premiere handle .r3d files natively (Avid downscales to 1080).

Check out Oliver Peters blog – great info there:
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/a-red-post-production-workflow/

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Michael Hancock
Editor

[Lance Bachelder]

Thanks i’ll check out the blog. Gonna be lots of research and testing before I start shooting for sure.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California

[Tim Wilson]

Here’s all I have to say about this. Be sure to swing by the NVIDIA booth at NAB and take a look at the HP Z820. Let’s talk about envy when you get back.

I should mention you’ll also be able to see the Z820 at Adobe, Avid and Intel too, among many others, but since we’re starting with NVIDIA, you should too.

🙂

Tim Wilson
Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine

[Aindreas Gallagher]

It wouldn’t be too crazy if 21c media production broadly became a pc concern would it?

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Bobby Mosca]

You may have just wrapped it all up for us. Apple is not going to release a Mac Pro just to support Final Cut X, Aperture, and Logic..

[Dennis Radeke]

[Lance Bachelder] “Understood. I’m assuming that without a Red Rocket I’d be cutting Red raw 4k stuff with PPro set to 1/2 or 1/4 in a 4k sequence to get any type of real-time performance. The Red Rocket is nearly 10 times the price of the GTX 680 though :(“

A few quick comments for you Lance.

The 680 does indeed look very, very interesting. I talk to the NVIDIA guys all of the time and when they make something like this in a Quadro, I’ll be very excited even though it’s a bit more expensive.

I think that the issue with previewing at full 4k res is twofold – one subjective and one practical. subjectively – do you really NEED to view at true full res (4k) and is there a practical true 4k viewing experience to fit most mortal’s budgets? Consider that RED 4k at quarter res is still HD quality (1000 lines) and it looks really nice. Edit the originals at a good quality even half (2k) and if your final deliverable is in fact 4k, then when you get to your grading you can go out to a 4k grading solution and hopefully finish in 4k.

My two cents.

[Lance Bachelder]

So are you saying offline low rez and then online later? Or just work at 1/4 rez and then finish in 4k? I prefer the latter – I have no prob working in 1/4 rez because as you say it’s still HD. I’d like to avoid the whole offline/proxy mess if I can – that would be the reason to go Adobe/nVidia for me.

As far as GeForce vs. Quadro – there is no difference at all in the 2D world. CUDA cores are CUDA cores regardless of the card they are on. Just read the FAQ for Tesla for apps like 3DSMAX – it’s all about the cores. Of course memory can be a big thing and you do get more memory on the higher end cards like the 6000 and the Tesla but at a huge price bump. As far as raw power, a GTX 680 should be stronger in PPro than anything else out at the present.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California

[Pierre Jasmin]

To add to this, the latest 7970 is a beast in that price point but in practice (fine print) it requires something like 450W of power by itself. It does not help at all someone using Premiere but it would help a lot an openCL app like FCP X for example. Just so it’s clear to run a new dual Sandy Bridge dual Extreme and two 7970 cards and add other peripherals, would bring the power requirement to something like a 1400W power supply for a system (before anyone tries overclocking, what is that? $100 a month in electricity for 12 hours a day???). And not something that could be retrofitted on say an iMac (iMac Pro X would need to be bigger)… If FCP was still considered an horse in terms of driving hardware sales, they would probably have made sure to go with cards that can’t run CUDA just to annoy Adobe… At this point it does not look like it’s going to happen on Apple front and maybe Smoke on the Mac (to give a different clear example of a system where such config would be legit) should also become Smoke on Windows… 🙂

[David Roth weiss]

[Tim Wilson] “Be sure to swing by the NVIDIA booth at NAB and take a look at the HP Z820. Let’s talk about envy when you get back.”

The Z820 is a great workstation – I know, because I reviewed the Z800 for the Cow when it was initially released. However, if you want a double dose of workstation envy while you’re at NAB, don’t miss the new ProMAX ONE professional workstation. Like the Z820, it’s guaranteed to make you green with envy. 🙂

David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
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David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.