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Nothing Is Professional & Industry Standards No Longer Exist
Thomas Frank replied 13 years, 4 months ago 25 Members · 44 Replies
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Tony West
February 6, 2012 at 4:37 pmNot really the words I would have used or how I would have phrased that message.
I found the camera part interesting though.
I agree that camera manufactures couldn’t care less if you can’t play there newest codecs on your old stuff.
They just put out their new stuff and expect you to keep up.
Your P2 player that you spent a lot of jack on can’t play the latest codec?
“Too bad, buy another one” seems to be the attitude.
I never really hear people complaining about it. It’s just accepted as that’s how it is.
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Thomas Frank
February 6, 2012 at 4:45 pma course this is a standard business model that even Apple has jumped on.
Remember software is easy to change but having the software and hardware tied in tightly so if you want to update you also have to update the hardware.like iMovie and Siri it can run on a iPhone 3GS but… if you want buy a new phone.
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Herb Sevush
February 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm[Michael Aranyshev] “I often use constructions like “digital negative” and “digital workprint” and so far I find it making a lot of sense.”
The reason being that they come from the feature film world, where you are directly replacing a film process with a digital equivalent. To be picky, those are digital workflow expressions, not NLE specific. They make sense when dealing with clients who knew the film equivalents in the first place – there are plenty of corporate clients who wouldn’t know what you were talking about.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Alan Okey
February 6, 2012 at 5:09 pmThis whole FCP X “debate” has grown incredibly tiresome. If you like X, great. Use it. If you don’t, great. Use something else. Personally attacking people for what software they choose to use or not to use is childish and unproductive.
Editors who dislike and do not use FCP X are not necessarily old and inflexible. It’s not that they “just don’t get it,” or that they are dinosaurs; they just don’t like it, and choose not to use it. By the same token, editors who like and use FCP X are not necessarily any less “professional” if it fits their needs.
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Marvin Holdman
February 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm“I remember the doom of Apple predicted when Steve Jobs ripped floppy disk drives from all new Macs. Yep, I remember those days when I was an IT engineer. ”
This statement stuck out to me. Seems like we’ve got a whole new class of folks in the video business now and they’ve found their voice. All the “IT” folk who have long hung out with us video “professionals” now seem to have decided that what we do is not longer a “profession”. From Ubilios on down, we seem to have plenty of folks from the computer world telling those who have crafted TV that there is “nothing special” about our business.
While I don’t disagree that we’re certainly moving farther and farther away from professional equipment and professional standards, I have to wonder whether it’s a good thing or not. At this point, the confusion created by the industry lead “revolution” might produce more opportunity to sell more equipment, but at the end of the day are we producing more and better products? Seems like the reply by those who embrace the more choices are better option is “it doesn’t matter, because more people can access it now”. While this may be true, I think of the old adage about 1,000 monkeys being given 1,000 typewriters and still none of them can produce Shakespeare. At the end of the day, it will ALWAYS take time to produce quality TV and I can’t help but wonder where many of these Johnny Come Lately’s will be in 2 years, once they find out that this TV stuff takes time.
Hope that’s not too dismissive, but the blogs like this feel a bit condescending. Especially when they appear to come from someone who is more concerned about simply having more people take up a particular application in order to further their business model (training) rather than giving one moments consideration to whether it is the best move for someone at this moment. Could FCPX evolve into something wonderful? It would appear. Is it there yet? Not really. Still hopeful, but not drinking the kool-aid just yet. (Though I do feel a thirst developing).
Marvin Holdman
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James Mortner
February 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm[Walter Soyka] “Why should we assume that one tool is the best for all possible editorial jobs?”
When the gentleman talking is selling training in said tool
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Jim Giberti
February 6, 2012 at 7:04 pm[Alan Okey] “Editors who dislike and do not use FCP X are not necessarily old and inflexible. It’s not that they “just don’t get it,” or that they are dinosaurs; they just don’t like it, and choose not to use it. By the same token, editors who like and use FCP X are not necessarily any less “professional” if it fits their needs.”
Perhaps Cow could make this into a carved sign and hang it at the top of the forum.
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Thomas Frank
February 6, 2012 at 7:05 pmI agree with you on the monkeys! Our IT guys are monkeys lol.
Look at YouTube it is full of monkeys and the sad thing is I am starting to see some on Vimeo! 🙁
But that is okay keep the monkeys coming gives me more opertunities. Unless everybody deside go with the Chinese way of producing fast and cheap. -
John Godwin
February 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm[Jim Giberti] “[Alan Okey] “Editors who dislike and do not use FCP X are not necessarily old and inflexible. It’s not that they “just don’t get it,” or that they are dinosaurs; they just don’t like it, and choose not to use it. By the same token, editors who like and use FCP X are not necessarily any less “professional” if it fits their needs.”
Perhaps Cow could make this into a carved sign and hang it at the top of the forum.”
Amen.
Best,
John
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