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No tracks, No Deal
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Thanks for the link, Steve. It looks to me that no matter how you slice it Apple would have to modify the magnetic timeline is some way to accommodate track like behavior,
bigpine
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[TImothy Auld] ” no matter how you slice it Apple would have to modify the magnetic timeline is some way to accommodate track like behavior,”
Which is why it’s highly unlikely that Apple will ever again produce the NLE some of us would like to see.
Oliver
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Problem is there’s a fatal flaw in everything a secondary, and that’s connected clips. Since it doesnt work like fcp7, if you were to say, insert a clip on “v2” the rest of the clips wouldn’t move/ripple, like they do in x or 7 (X if course the clip would need to go in the primary, otherwise it’s just a connected clip). You would then have to spend a long time adjusting the timeline back to how it was intended to play.
My thoughts are to have a sortable timeline. Really, it’s all tracks are, a sort, a way of organizing. If there was a way to have the timeline sorted in the layer order you want (perhaps using Roles), I think it would help to keep things visually organized if you need it, but also play off the strengths of the current x timeline.
Jeremy
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Man, you are obstreperous.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I appreciate the explanation. “
No, actually, I really don’t think you do. I think you actually ignored much of what I was saying.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I guess I am ignorant. I still don’t see anything that can’t be done in FCPX. “
I never said that there was anything there that can’t be done in X. I said that most of the stuff there is something I don’t want to do in X. That I judge it a disadvantage for ME to use FCP X in the given situation. I can understand that YOU might think the tradeoff ( a magnetic timeline for tracks) is somehow worthwhile, but yes, if you can see no value in tracks at all then I DO think you are being willfully ignorant in defense of FCP X. If you really can’t understand why somebody–or groups of somebodies–other than yourself might prefer the ease of X,Y (in 5 sec, down 5 tracks) than I will never be able to explain it to you.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Yes, you probably wouldn’t be as fast as you are in fcp7 on the first one, but you’d get faster. “
Sigh. I could go back to paper cuts and punch tape as long as everybody else was on the same playing field. Thank God I don’t have to.
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[Chris Harlan] “Man, you are obstreperous. “
Brother, I’m not trying to be. I am just asking for details. I am trying to keep this going for the education of everyone, including myself, it is a debate forum. There was a post the other day that FPCX couldn’t do audio/video/text editing. That is horse poo poo.
If it’s no tracks, no deal for you. Cool. I’ll stfu now.
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Audio tracks is a big deal to me. Fairly complicated SFX, music and voice mix are top priority, more so than the quality of video. Being a small producer and an “FCPX fence sitter,” I will likely continue to sit on the fence and watch this forum until I can no longer use FCS 3. (This will also keep me from updating to Lion.) Most likely, an upgrade to a necessary 3D program will force me to make a decision on the editing sw and possibly change the platform away from Apple. The decision will be easy if Apple d/n have workable, mutiple audio tracks by then. I am sure that my situation reflects many of those who use FCS.
Phil Brockett
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[Chris Harlan] “Sorry. No tracks, no deal.”
I smell what your rock is cooking. This was the single biggest deal breaker on my end. That and sequence creation. I’m not happy people prefer or are even remotely in compliance to this change, I just don’t understand how they can or prefer to work in this environment. I just don’t see the creative and method advantages. I’m immune to it’s charms.
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[Jamie Franklin] “I’m not happy people prefer or are even remotely in compliance to this change, I just don’t understand how they can or prefer to work in this environment.”
Strange comment, why would other peoples method of working make you not happy?
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Steve Connor] “Strange comment, why would other peoples method of working make you not happy?”
It is in regards to Chris being happy some have found the advantages (in fewer steps) and like them. I just forgot to quote that part
I don’t understand it. The advantages don’t seem like advantages to me. So I’m not happy for them, I simply don’t understand them 😉 😛
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[Jamie Franklin] “It is in regards to Chris being happy some have found the advantages (in fewer steps) and like them. I just forgot to quote that part
I don’t understand it. The advantages don’t seem like advantages to me. So I’m not happy for them, I simply don’t understand them 😉 :P”
OK it makes sense now! I don’t want to sound patronising but we all work differently, for some of us FCPX has advantages in our workflow, for others clearly not, I don’t think you need to understand it.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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