No AVI files working

[Chelsea Volz]

Okay, so it looks like I was able to fix the issue somehow. I uninstalled the 64 bit version of SV9 and installed my old 32 bit version of SV8 and then it worked fine.

[John Rofrano]

You did not have to uninstall the 64-bit version but that’s OK. There are no 64-bit codecs for some of those formats so it’s best that you keep using the 32-bit version of Vegas Pro for your work.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Chelsea Volz]

Thanks, although I’m not sure what else I could have done. What were my other options, aside from downgrading?

And are you sure there are no 64 bit codecs for the three codecs that I need? Only because the 32 bit version doesn’t let me use all of my RAM, according to an answer I received to another post I made here a few hours ago, and it’s really messing with my rendering time as well as the overall performance of my projects. And I feel like I should be able to take advantage of such a high powered machine. It took me nearly 12 minutes to render a 4 minute piece of medium quality material and I was informed that it was probably because of the 32 bit program so I should probably switch back to the 64-bit…

This was the other post:

[Chelsea Volz]: “Hey everyone. I’m not sure if this is the correct place to put this, and if not, I apologize.
I am a bit concerned because I JUST purchased my brand new Mac Pro. (Literally, it was just set up two days ago). I am concerned because it still took me 10 minutes to render a 4 minute, medium quality .wmv clip on Sony Vegas via Bootcamp on Windows 7 and I’m not sure why, seeing as my computer is new and whatnot.
These are the specs:
> Two 2.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Westmere” processors (Although this is what it says when I go to Computer > System Properties in Windows: Intel Xeon CPU @ 2.53 GHz and I’m not sure what that means.)
> It has two 1 TB Harddrives (one is partitioned for Windows via Bootcamp)
> And it has 16GB of RAM (which is being utilized according to my system properties on Windows).
> And I’m running the 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium.
This is the same amount of time it took my old laptop to render to same footage and it was significantly less equipped. Please let me know if you need more info or have any ideas about what the issue could be..
Thank you!”

[Danny Hays]: “That does seem rediculously high for a machine like that. I’ve never ran windows on a Mac before though. Are you adding alot of effects?
Some effects add tons of time to a render. I tried Boris Continuum noise reduction on a 12 minute SD video last night with a 3.4 dual core laptop, Windows 7 64 bit, and it took several hours.”

[Chelsea Volz]: “Actually, no. The projects I’ve been working on this last hour or so had absolutely no effects at all, in fact. Now it really does seem incredibly strange ; I hadn’t thought about the fact that I’m not even using affects.
Is all the of CPU power being utilized? And if not, how do I fix it so that it is? Because as far as I can tell, that’s really the only thing that can be holding it up.. Or, could it be the fact that I’m using a 32-bit Version of Vegas 8 while running a 64 version of Windows 7? I’m not sure if that would affect the rendering speed, though..”

[Danny Hays]: “32 bit Vegas only sees 2 gig of ram but rendering is CPU only. Start a render, then open your Windows task manager with cntl, alt and del keys, selecting task manager and click the tab that allows you to see all your CPU usage. My i7 PC used all 8 by default, but your on a Mac so I don’t know. That’s one way for you to tell if Vegas rendering is using all your CPUs.”

[Chelsea Volz] “While rendering a project with very minimal effects (and I mean ONLY using fade to blacks and crossfades) my CPU is between 65 – 80..”

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[John Rofrano]

[Chelsea Volz] “And are you sure there are no 64 bit codecs for the three codecs that I need?”

You can certainly look for them at the web sites where you got the 32-bit versions. To my knowledge, they don’t exist. This is another reason why I recommend you convert to M-JPEG. Vegas Pro 64-bit handles M-JPEG internally quite nicely.

I realize that you don’t want to convert all of your files, but you have to realize that you are downloading highly compressed delivery formats and trying to edit them. There are codecs for acquisition… there are codecs for editing… and there are codecs for delivery… and they’re not always the same codec.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Chelsea Volz]

Okay… So basically, I have three options, here.

I can convert my entire 1TB hard drive full of media to different codecs. And I’d have to convert more clips every week because I run two websites where I upload clips. Hmm.. Well… Which converter would you recommend for that? And could you please give me directions on how to go about it? I’d appreciate it because I tried using the other one you mentioned: AviDemux, but everytime I load any clips in it and set the video and audio portions and then try to save it so it renders out the correct format, it crashes automatically. I’ve tried multiple clips. I might be doing something wrong but I’m not sure as I’ve never used it before.

Or, I could continue using my 32-bit Vegas so that my codecs cooperate and deal with not using all of the capabilities that I paid $6,000 for as well as having to deal with the slow rendering speed and overall craptastic performance I’ve been dealing with while editing (lagging, freezing, etc.)..

And finally, I could return my Mac and purchase a top of the line Windows and not deal with all of these issues. However, then I’d sacrifice the ability to switch to Final Cut Pro when necessary and I’d also lose the expandability that this Mac Pro comes with (it’s capable of being expanded to 32GB of RAM at any time and it comes with four extra hard drive slots…)

[John Rofrano]

[Chelsea Volz] “I can convert my entire 1TB hard drive full of media to different codecs. And I’d have to convert more clips every week because I run two websites where I upload clips.”

Well… you only have to convert the ones you’d like to edit when you want to edit them. 😉

[Chelsea Volz] “Which converter would you recommend for that? And could you please give me directions on how to go about it? I’d appreciate it because I tried using the other one you mentioned: AviDemux, but everytime I load any clips in it and set the video and audio portions and then try to save it so it renders out the correct format, it crashes automatically.”

Where are you getting these files from that are making everything blow up? Can you point to one so that I can test it?

[Chelsea Volz] “Or, I could continue using my 32-bit Vegas so that my codecs cooperate and deal with not using all of the capabilities that I paid $6,000 for as well as having to deal with the slow rendering speed and overall craptastic performance I’ve been dealing with while editing (lagging, freezing, etc.)..”

If you continue to use formats that don’t have 64-bit codecs then you can’t use a 64-bit program with them and yes, you are limited to 32-bit. This has nothing to do with Vegas or your computer. It is the formats you choose to work with that are the problem.

[Chelsea Volz] “And finally, I could return my Mac and purchase a top of the line Windows and not deal with all of these issues. “

I’m not sure how that would solve anything. You are running Windows 7. The hardware doesn’t make a difference. You would have all these issues with any computer. It’s the video formats, not the computer that’s he problem.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Chelsea Volz]

Okay, I’ve decided that I will convert the files I use. It’ll be better in the long run, anyway. 🙂 I’m also going to switch back to the 64-bit version of Vegas once I complete the file conversions. If I do so, will I be able to capitalize on my computer’s performance?

Thanks for checking it out for me!

Edit:
Here is the file:

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=CM2TLVC7

Now, if I convert my files using the codecs you suggested, I shouldn’t run into anymore issues, correct? As in, there will be no more flickering while editing, there will be no more issues with not being able to see the audio or video, etc.?

[John Rofrano]

Chelsea, you might want to edit your last post and remove your userid and password. Never post information like that to a public forum. You never know who may misuse it.

Also, Pete Jefferson found a link to Xvid 64-bit in this post:

Xvid Mpeg-4 AVI & Vegas Pro 9 – novice

He said it allows you to view Xvid in Vegas 64-bit but you still can’t render. Since Vegas doesn’t support editing Xvid I don’t know if will help or not.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Chelsea Volz]

Hmm, thank you for that, but I think I still may just convert all of my files. I think it’d be better to steer clear from these faulty formats regardless. But thank you! 🙂

Is there another program I can use to convert my files like the one you suggested? It seems that none of my files will work in it, although I may just be doing it wrong. I’ll explain what I do: I open the program, open my clip into the program, change the video on the left hand side to MJPEG and the audio to PCM and the format to AVI and then I go to File > Save As but as soon as I change the file name and save it, it crashes…
I hope there is another program that I can use to change the codecs. :-/

[Chelsea Volz]

Okay, so I FINALLY figured out how to work the AviDemux program, but when it finishes converting the clip and I import it into Vegas, now the audio doesn’t work. Is there something I should download in order to make the PCM codec work?

Thanks so much! 🙂