Nice thread on the future of the Mac Pro on the Videoguy’s forum

[Craig Seeman]

I do know their reputation. They’re more or less local to me as well.
I certainly think they’re wrong and he admits it’s a “rant” so I suspect it’s coming from some level of frustration and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s business related. That doesn’t mean I suspect an ulterior motive but I can’t help but think they are experiencing an issue with selling to the Mac market.

[Craig Seeman]

[Herb Sevush] “OK, I see, they obviously hate Apple.”

It’s not that they hate Mac it’s that they don’t see sales related to MacPros. I doubt many would given its current state. If he’s analysis were true I doubt there would be a MacPro replacement. Apple has a computer in mind that will reach a market they currently don’t reach (not with the aging MacPro) and he entirely misses that possibility.

[Dennis Radeke]

rolling eyes…. 9_9

[Herb Sevush]

[Craig Seeman] “Apple has a computer in mind that will reach a market they currently don’t reach (not with the aging MacPro) and he entirely misses that possibility.”

That’s fine, you might be right, he might be wrong; but the tenor of your opening post was to discredit them for financial bias, which was not fair or accurate.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Brett Sherman]

I just don’t agree with this analysis. Tim Cook has already said they are releasing a MacPro or Pro Market Mac in 2013. They would have to change gears completely and reneg on a promise.

Secondly, I’m not sure the cost for them to develop a Mac Pro is all that high. Sure it may be a money loser, but it is a worthwhile investment for them to keep the pro market. And the loss would be small in comparison to profits from iOS devices.

I also don’t think it is out of bounds to suggest that someones opinions may be colored by their financial incentives. This is psychology 101 really. How many opinions on this board are colored by financial incentives – 99%? I guess my point is this guy has no more information than anyone else. I find it pretty meaningless.

[Herb Sevush]

[Brett Sherman] “I also don’t think it is out of bounds to suggest that someones opinions may be colored by their financial incentives”

I don’t think it’s out of bounds either, if in fact their are any financial incentives. In this case your dealing with someone who doesn’t have a pony in the race.

[Brett Sherman] “I guess my point is this guy has no more information than anyone else. I find it pretty meaningless.”

Correct, he has no more and no less information than many of the posters here. Discerning it’s usefulness was the point of my re-posting it.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Brett Sherman]

“If you require more power than a single CPU iMac or DIY build then a dual Xeon CPU workstation is for you. The new HP z620/820 or Dell T5600/7600 workstations blow the current Mac Pro out of the water. They are more powerful and more cost effective. Plus you get a level of flexibility and configurations that Apple simply does not offer.”

It’s pretty clear in the post he’s trying to sell PCs. Maybe he’s right or not, but it’s definitely a sales pitch. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

[Gary Bettan]

Thank you Herb & Dennis for the support. I expected to get some negative heat from the article. Overall the feedback has been more positive then I expected, with the majority of those chiming in agreeing with me more then not.

I will admit that some of my rant is frustration with Apple. Not for killing or not killing the Mac Pro, but for refusing to give professional editors who depend on their products for their livelihood better info.

I talk to these guys everyday. Many find themselves stuck. Not just on FCP7, but on their old reliable Mac Pro.

• They see other NLEs, including FCPX, getting features and performance that they don’t have.
• They see HP and Dell workstations that are more powerful and cost effective then their Mac Pro.
• They see the new iMac being almost or as powerful as their Mac Pro, depending on what they own.
• They see guys running Avid or Premiere on a DIY machine that cost less then $3K and handles any HD file format they throw at it.

They want to migrate to something, but they just don’t have enough information from Apple. I feel Apple is teasing/leading them on to keep them from jumping ship all the way. I will tell you that many editors and post facilities are migrating to or actively exploring migrating to PCs. Many are also integrating iMacs into their facilities/ edit suites.

I hope I’m wrong. I’d love to see a new Mac Pro in 2013. Or an expandable / upgradable iMac. I love the MacBook Pro w Retina for NLE. How cool would an iMac w/ Retina be? Imagine if it also allowed for easy access to add RAM, additional SSDs and a better GPU. An iMac Pro for lack of a better name. Who knows?

Gary

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[Herb Sevush]

[Brett Sherman] “It’s pretty clear in the post he’s trying to sell PCs. “

Well he might be pitching them but it’s not for financial reasons as his company doesn’t sell ANY computers or computer parts, not PC, not Mac, not Linux. They sell video equipment – editing software, external hard drives, I/O cards, audio, etc. What did you find untrue about the statement you quoted from his post?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

Gary –

I love reading your DIY blogs. I have no interest in ever building one for myself but I find it invaluable for understanding what’s going on in world of PC components. Thanks.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf