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  • Tim Wilson

    October 24, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    [Juan Morales] ” I distinctly remember a different situation earlier this year; the forum was full of speculations and “leaked” stills of FCPX’s new interface, so where does all this political correctness (gone mad) suddenly come from?”

    Bessie sometimes gets mad cow disease, but this isn’t that. It’s also not political correctness. It’s being polite.

    The fact is that there is a HUGE difference between Apple and Avid. Apple showed their new interface in a well-attended public meeting, which was well-covered by press from around the world — which Apple knew about. Anything they showed is fair game.

    Avid’s page wasn’t intended to be public.

    I stand by the call.

    [Michael Hancock] “That’s not denying readers on the Cow the news – it’s respecting IP and delivering the news when it comes from Avid, at the time they want it out.”

    Trust me, the wheels are already turning. 🙂 When the time comes, nobody here will be lacking coverage.

    We recognize that this is big news for our entire industry, whether or not someone is currently using Media Composer or not. We’ve done wall-to-wall coverage for releases of FCPX and Adobe Creative Suite, and you’ll get the whole megillah here too….and probably in more than one forum if you know what I mean….

    tw

  • Kevin Patrick

    October 24, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “If I had seen it though, I personally would have turned it off in a heartbeat.”

    That’s good know. I agree with you, especially for the reasons you highlighted.

    No one knows why it was on Avid’s site. No one knows who put it there. It may not have been an Avid employee.

  • Kevin Patrick

    October 24, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    If my response implied that I in some way approve of censorship, then I did a poor job responding. (and that wouldn’t be the first time I did a poor job posting on the internet)

    Just to be clear, I don’t approve of censorship.

    I also don’t know why the post was pulled.

  • David Roth weiss

    October 24, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    [Kevin Patrick] “I also don’t know why the post was pulled.”

    Well, Juan’s not answering, so I’ll ask you Keven. Would you want your latest project pirated and distributed on the Internet before you even finished editorial?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

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  • Juan Morales

    October 24, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “would you want your latest project pirated and distributed on the Internet before you even finished editorial?”

    No, and neither did I post an illegal copy of Avid’s new MC6 on the Cow.

    If you want to look at it that way, then the only thing I posted about the “project” was an outline of the story without giving away the ending. What is wrong with that? No one is leaking illegal made copies here of the project.

  • Juan Morales

    October 24, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Sorry, double post.

  • Michael Hancock

    October 24, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    [Juan Morales] “If you want to look at it that way, then the only thing I posted about the “project” was an outline of the story without giving away the ending. What is wrong with that? No one is leaking illegal made copies here of the project.”

    If you don’t understand the concept of intellectual property then you will never understand the issue of what you posted and why it gets pulled.

    Consider this – Why do companies go to such great lengths to have ironclad NDAs for beta testers? Because they don’t want the info out there yet – it’s their product, they release when they want. The only difference here is that you had unauthorized access to information that is otherwise under NDA because Avid made a mistake. It doesn’t make the property yours to disseminate.

    There’s a big user group meeting in Boston next week and there’s supposed to be a surprise. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the announcement and demo of MC6, but I could be wrong. If it’s not, we continue to wait.

    Since when is patience not a virtue?

    —————-
    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Sam Cole

    October 25, 2011 at 1:05 am

    [Michael Hancock] “The only difference here is that you had unauthorized access to information that is otherwise under NDA because Avid made a mistake.”

    Have I missed something here? Where was he ‘unauthorised’ in accessing an on line web site?

    My take on Avid taking it down was they noticed some errors and had to re-work it . . . . maybe?!?

    Sam Cole
    On line Mastering Facility
    FCP, Avid, Adobe
    Sydney, Australia

  • Kevin Patrick

    October 25, 2011 at 3:05 am

    Of course not. I can’t imagine anyone else would either.

    Although, I’m not sure why you are asking me that question.

  • Michael Hancock

    October 25, 2011 at 11:15 am

    [Sam Cole] “Have I missed something here? Where was he ‘unauthorised’ in accessing an on line web site?”

    It wasn’t supposed to posted on Avid’s website yet – it’s not officially released info. I’m not saying he hacked the website. He got lucky and did some screen grabs when a mistake was made, but just like the guy that found the iPhone at that bar – he doesn’t have the right to post it everywhere.

    [Sam Cole] “My take on Avid taking it down was they noticed some errors and had to re-work it . . . . maybe?!?”

    Media Composer 6 isn’t released yet – you can’t buy it, it isn’t shipping, so it wasn’t supposed to be posted. If there were mistakes, that’s not why it was pulled. It was pulled because it wasn’t supposed to be up.

    —————-
    Michael Hancock
    Editor

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